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Aug 06, 2010 06:22 |  #16

Moppie wrote in post #10671841 (external link)
Any other ideas?

Try a different rendering intent?


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Aug 06, 2010 06:35 |  #17

René Damkot wrote in post #10671882 (external link)
Try a different rendering intent?

I'm just playing with that now.

It's interesting it appears that relative in PS looks different to relative in LR, and there are only the two options in LR.


I also went into the driver and made sure everything was set to zero.
There is no option to turn off colour management in the drive, but doing "manual" mode with zero adjustments seems to have the same effect.


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Aug 06, 2010 06:50 |  #18

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It's interesting it appears that relative in PS looks different to relative in LR

When printed?
And when starting with ProPhotoRGB in PS, using same settings (bpc?)

I'd understand a difference for perceptual, but have to think about this one ;)
Maybe a different engine used...

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and there are only the two options in LR.

Yeah. For photographs, only Relative Colorimetric and Perceptual make sense.


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Aug 06, 2010 07:08 |  #19

René Damkot wrote in post #10671934 (external link)
When printed?
And when starting with ProPhotoRGB in PS, using same settings (bpc?)


Now your going to confuse me :lol:
Everything is in sRGB.


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Aug 06, 2010 07:16 |  #20

LR uses Melissa RGB internally: that's ProPhotoRGB gamut with a different 'curve'.

So if you start with an sRGB image in PS, I could understand a difference:
Some (more saturated) colors might still be in the image in LR, but out of (sRGB) gamut in PS.


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Aug 06, 2010 08:11 |  #21

Moppie wrote in post #10671841 (external link)
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone.

The calibration is done with a Spyder 2 Express, so no option to set the luminance.

And yes, Canon Ink on Canon Photo paper, using the Canon Profile.

Ralph III, I managed to dig up that same post when I first got the printer. You would think Canon could have used a more logical naming sytem :lol:

I have however managed to solve the brightness issue.
Turns out the driver was set to "Dark". Changed it to normal and the prints look much better, very, very close to the monitor (allowing for the difference between the two mediums).

I also did a few more tests.
The red actually looks like slight over saturation of any red in the image, mostly around skin tones.

It may simply be a problem with the way Canon did the profile??

Any other ideas?

I have a cheapo MP620 that has been giving me the same problems so I have just been letting the printer color manage for the little stuff I do at home (I always use a lab for "important stuff"). Where exactly did you find this setting for "Dark"? If I could get my prints a little closer at home I might use it more often.


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Aug 06, 2010 09:27 |  #22

Maybe starting with a known standard print will help to zero in to the problem.
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