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Boom Suggestion for B800 w/Beauty Dish?

 
Jonathan ­ Taylor
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Aug 06, 2010 02:37 |  #1

So here's the deal...

I'm about to drop some dough on a new Alien Bee B800 with a gridded beauty dish. I've only used one once in the past, and it was mounted to a ~$700 boom stand. I simply cannot drop that kind of money on a lightstand. I'm looking for something a bit [read as: a LOT] more affordable.

Here's what I have:
-Multiple Heavy-Duty Manfrotto light stands
-One of these: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …4_124_Clamp_for​_3085.html (external link)

What I'm looking for (possibly? you tell me...):
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …m_Arm.html#spec​ifications (external link)
or
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …m_Arm.html#spec​ifications (external link)

Will either of those suffice (by suffice, i mean 'not snap in half') with the Bee/BD setup?

Do you guys have any other [affordable] suggestions?

Thanks!


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Aug 06, 2010 07:46 |  #2

I've used this el cheapo for a little while (including with an Einstein and Kacey BD), and it does a pretty decent job:

http://www.amazon.com …tand-Weight/dp/B001SVJUPG (external link)

It's certainly not heavy duty, but I'd think that an AB800 and BD would work fine, especially on a budget.


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Aug 06, 2010 08:17 |  #3

Jonathan Taylor wrote in post #10671482 (external link)
So here's the deal...

I'm about to drop some dough on a new Alien Bee B800 with a gridded beauty dish. I've only used one once in the past, and it was mounted to a ~$700 boom stand. I simply cannot drop that kind of money on a lightstand. I'm looking for something a bit [read as: a LOT] more affordable.

Here's what I have:
-Multiple Heavy-Duty Manfrotto light stands
-One of these: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …4_124_Clamp_for​_3085.html (external link)

What I'm looking for (possibly? you tell me...):
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …m_Arm.html#spec​ifications (external link)
or
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …m_Arm.html#spec​ifications (external link)

Will either of those suffice (by suffice, i mean 'not snap in half') with the Bee/BD setup?

Do you guys have any other [affordable] suggestions?

Thanks!


I can tell you from personal experience that the 2nd boom (impact) is way more than strong enough for a B800/BD. I have the exact same one on a HD 13' lightstand/casters. I regularly use a B1600 with large folding octa (way heavier) and it doesn't even flinch at the weight. It's way heavier duty than the price suggestions. great build quality too

btw, the impact boom already includes the clamp that you already have as well.




  
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Aug 06, 2010 08:44 |  #4

How far you want to hang the combo of AB800 and the beauty dish?


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Aug 06, 2010 09:16 |  #5

sagray wrote in post #10672101 (external link)
I've used this el cheapo for a little while (including with an Einstein and Kacey BD), and it does a pretty decent job:

http://www.amazon.com …tand-Weight/dp/B001SVJUPG (external link)

It's certainly not heavy duty, but I'd think that an AB800 and BD would work fine, especially on a budget.

I use the same one for AB800 + either Beauty dish or softbox. No issues so far and the sandbag it comes with is decent.


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Aug 06, 2010 10:07 |  #6

dizzyg44 wrote in post #10672225 (external link)
I can tell you from personal experience that the 2nd boom (impact) is way more than strong enough for a B800/BD.

Neither of the ones that I linked are Impact. Are you referring to the Westcott or the Interfit?


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Aug 06, 2010 12:51 |  #7

Jonathan Taylor wrote in post #10672731 (external link)
Neither of the ones that I linked are Impact. Are you referring to the Westcott or the Interfit?

I wondered the same myself, but thought that one of them might be a rebranded Impact. I didn't have the time to follow through and compare, so I just let it drop...


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Aug 12, 2010 19:08 |  #8

sorry, not sure why I said Impact, I mean the westcott.

I was probably thinking impact back of the lightstand I'm using with my boom




  
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Aug 13, 2010 00:41 |  #9

Have a look here:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=866593


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Aug 13, 2010 08:30 |  #10

How easy to use that boom say outside on location?


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Aug 13, 2010 09:22 |  #11

Jonathan Taylor wrote in post #10671482 (external link)
So here's the deal...

I'm about to drop some dough on a new Alien Bee B800 with a gridded beauty dish. I've only used one once in the past, and it was mounted to a ~$700 boom stand. I simply cannot drop that kind of money on a lightstand. I'm looking for something a bit [read as: a LOT] more affordable.

Here's what I have:
-Multiple Heavy-Duty Manfrotto light stands
-One of these: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …4_124_Clamp_for​_3085.html (external link)

What I'm looking for (possibly? you tell me...):
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …m_Arm.html#spec​ifications (external link)
or
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …m_Arm.html#spec​ifications (external link)

Will either of those suffice (by suffice, i mean 'not snap in half') with the Bee/BD setup?

Do you guys have any other [affordable] suggestions?

Thanks!


I only trust my lights with a Bogen Super Boom.....
If you choose not to go that route and want to custom build your Boom, i.e. choose the Stand, choose the Boom Arm, etc.... then I would not settle for anything less than at least a Cine Stand. Bogen, Calumet and Avenger all makes them. You can get them for less than $100.oo used or Calumet is currently running a SPECIAL on them right now.....

New Price: $130.oo
Special Price: $100.oo


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Aug 13, 2010 09:29 |  #12

bobbyz wrote in post #10713994 (external link)
How easy to use that boom say outside on location?

Whatever boom you want to use outside for a studio strobe, it will be heavy to carry. All the good duty quality boom are heavy.

You can use it on location, but the stand, the boom, the counter weight and the sand bags will be a lot to carry. But they are a must if you want to use your studio strobes and that still apply for on location works unfortunately.


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Aug 13, 2010 09:39 |  #13

The Loft Studios wrote in post #10714222 (external link)
I only trust my lights with a Bogen Super Boom.....
If you choose not to go that route and want to custom build your Boom, i.e. choose the Stand, choose the Boom Arm, etc.... then I would not settle for anything less than at least a Cine Stand. Bogen, Calumet and Avenger all makes them. You can get them for less than $100.oo used or Calumet is currently running a SPECIAL on them right now.....

New Price: $130.oo
Special Price: $100.oo

I can't see any specs on the calumet cine stand that you mention.


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Aug 13, 2010 09:50 |  #14

I use a Smith Victor MB150 boom on an Impact AC light stand to mount my B1600 with HOBD all the time with no problems.


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Aug 13, 2010 10:03 |  #15

The Westcott and Interfit appear to be the same, with the Westcott having a little heavier counterweight. I have the Westcott boom arm and works well. I plan to use it with my AB800 and Kacey 22" BD. I haven't yet, since I'm waiting on the AB800 and BD. I use a Savage 13' heavy duty air cushioned light stand, which has a wide base, so I'm not worried. Since my light stand is 13', I don't plan to extend one of the sections and just let the boom arm lock on that section for additional stability. Just make sure your light stand has a wide base, so it's less likely to tip over. And if you're still worried of it tipping over, you could probably use a sandbag on the base.


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