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Aug 06, 2010 12:37 |  #1

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I have taken this photo and I want to remove the stem on the lower right hand of the main stem. I usually use exclusively, DPP for everything I do PP wise, but I have just got Lightroom 3.
I have had a few goes to remove it myself with no joy. I have trawled through all the searches I can, I've searched through Youtube for tutorials but with no luck. I can only find info on removing spots/blemishes. Can anyone point me towards a tutorial or give me a breakdown on how to do it please.
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Aug 06, 2010 12:42 |  #2

No idea wether it will work, but you probably have the best chance ehen cloning "along the stem" (NOT heal)
Like this: In small steps, from either side.

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Aug 06, 2010 13:31 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #3

Thanks Rene
I have had a go, but, its difficult to get a straight edge on the stem. Also with the circles overlapping its showing remnents of the black stem underneath. I thought I would be able to duplicate the shade of green alongside the stem and 'paint' it in.
Anyone is welcome to have a play with the image to see if its possible to do, but, in Lightroom please to see if its possible.
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Aug 06, 2010 15:40 |  #4

Like you note, you can use the clone tool to patch in the green background into the branch, but the biggest problem will be where the branch meets the stem -- Lightroom just isn't designed for this type of thing and I'm not even sure what the best way of approaching it would be, since as far as I know there is no way of erasing a clone such as you can a brush.

It would be simple in an editor with basic layer and masking abilities like the Gimp, Elements or I believe PaintShopPro simply because sophisticated cloning and masking and such is a major "specialty" of such programs.


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Aug 06, 2010 16:15 |  #5

Using the technique René described can yield ok results (just don't look too closely), the background certainly helps in this instance.

See attached image, with spots used.


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Aug 06, 2010 16:19 |  #6

Good job! Lightroom creativity!


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Aug 06, 2010 20:46 |  #7

I use LR but for cloning, I use PSE. much easier.


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Aug 06, 2010 20:54 |  #8

I reckon you should leave the lower right stem... it makes the photo look like some kind of weird dancer with funny hair :D


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Aug 07, 2010 04:02 as a reply to  @ gcflora's post |  #9

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Thats exactly the result I was looking for CFNZ. Could you please elaborate on how you achieved the removal stage by stage. Exactly in which sequence did you use the circles.
I thought by getting Lightroom I would find it easy to do things like this. I know I havent given it much time yet, and I will pesevere, so if anyone can recommend any books I'll give them a go.
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I have got PSE 7 but as I have a 7d its no use. I didnt really want to be using several different editors to process my images. Does anyone think Elements 8 is better or more user friendly than Lightroom 3 ?


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Aug 07, 2010 21:39 |  #10

Step by step as requested. Hopefully it makes sense, looking at the screen shots I didn't remain consistent in terms of how I had the spots selected.

You should be able to get PSE7 to work with your 7d by updating Camera Raw - I've seen others mention this link (external link). Scroll down for instructions that includes PSE7.


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Aug 08, 2010 05:46 |  #11

h14nha wrote in post #10673819 (external link)
Also with the circles overlapping its showing remnents of the black stem underneath.

Like I said, clone, don't heal.


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Aug 08, 2010 17:49 |  #12

Thanks both to CFNZ and Rene for your replys and advice. The breakdown of each step was very helpful and I will check out the link for the PSE 7 & 7d later and follow that up thanks.
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