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Why do people bag the 24-70 L?

 
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Aug 12, 2010 09:03 |  #61

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Funny. Sigma 30/1.4 made me get rid of 24-70/2.8. For good.

The Sig30 is the 1st lens I ever sold that I wish I would have kept... and will be the 1st lens I sell and re-buy!


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Aug 12, 2010 09:06 |  #62

Its my primary lens at weddings, no matter what and how much I love primes, I always come back to the 24-70, not even my 16-35 mkII gets a look in


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Aug 12, 2010 09:36 |  #63

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People bag the 24-70L because they either:
1. can't achieve good shots with it
2. can achieve better shots with other lenses using features like fast apertures
3. Want it with IS
4. can't afford it
5. have no life


1. Maybe they should learn how to use it.
2. Not many do the same in low light circumstances
3. Is there really a need for IS on the 24-70?
4. Does that mean they'll also bag the 70-200 L, 100-400 etc?
5. Touche'...!!!!


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Aug 12, 2010 10:40 |  #64

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3. Is there really a need for IS on the 24-70?
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I didn't think so until I got the 17-55 and the 24-105. I am not a total fan of IS even wide open. Sure you can shoot without it, but in certain circumstances it sure does help.


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Aug 12, 2010 11:05 |  #65

As for IS on the 24-70 ....... this lens is mostly used by event shooters who need to keep shutter speeds at 1/50 or higher to ensure there is no subject movement causing blur.

Personally I'll try for 1/80 or 1/100 to ensure crisp photos of people at events. At these shutter speeds IS is of little value on a 24-70 focal length lens.


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Aug 12, 2010 11:38 |  #66

SMP_Homer wrote in post #10707484 (external link)
So I have to ask... what's the lens that does all that?

no lens does it all well. the 24-70 to me does a lot of things okay, but nothing good.

i'd rather have a lens that does something amazing (ultrawide, tele, super fast, whatever) than a lens that does so-so in a bunch of categories.


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Aug 12, 2010 11:40 |  #67

mmahoney wrote in post #10708158 (external link)
As for IS on the 24-70 ....... this lens is mostly used by event shooters who need to keep shutter speeds at 1/50 or higher to ensure there is no subject movement causing blur.

Personally I'll try for 1/80 or 1/100 to ensure crisp photos of people at events. At these shutter speeds IS is of little value on a 24-70 focal length lens.

sometimes I need 1/160 indoors too.


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Aug 12, 2010 15:46 |  #68

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So I have to ask... what's the lens that does all that?

It just so happens that I'm working on building a 15-800mm f2 lens for full frame cameras, and it should be on the market by the end of this century. At present I'm having problems with size and cost, but apart from those minor considerations, it's a doddle!
BTW, it won't need IS...you just park up the truck it's mounted on and it's 427 kg inertia keeps it rock steady!


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Aug 13, 2010 02:57 |  #69

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I too am shooting the 24-70L on my 7D and yes, there is a learning curve. Actually, the whole photography thing is a learning curve for me because I've only recently started trying to get serious about it. But, I've learned seemingly simple stuff like the fact my copy of the 24-70L isn't nearly as sharp at f2.8 as it is at f/5.6 thru f/8. I do think the lens occasionally hunts for focus for no apparent reason. I also think the AF on my 7D is not quite as consitent in one-shot AF mode as the center point on my 5D Mark II. Overall however, I'm happy with my gear and I'm starting to realize that part of my problem is both inexperience and unrealistic expectation set by looking at the final, processed results of others. I suspect your lens and camera are probably fine but, reading complaints on the web screws with your head a bit.

Having spent most of my career in some form of customer service, I can tell you that nothing travels faster than bad news. You rarely get kudos for doing a great job or going above and beyond. But the one time you slip up or something gets by you, all hell breaks lose and the person who feels slighted will tell anyone who will listen that your are hell spawn and possibly the devil himself. Manufacturers suffer similar issues all the time. For example, how many people thought Toyotas were great cars until the media went ape-**** reporting runaway cars? How many people won't even entertain the idea of buying an Toyota today despite the fact we now know this was an exceedingly rare event and that at least one widely reported incident was faked? The point lurking here is, as others have said, you have to take complaints with a grain of salt because for every whiny troll, there are at least a dozen folks who are quite happy with their gear but never say a word.

Very well said and I agree. Your scope on this is valid on a lot of things in life.

As for the 24-70L I don't think I would ever get rid of it.

Even if the IS version comes out I won't be wanting to sell as it would be another $300 - 400 dearer anyhow...;)


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Aug 13, 2010 06:24 |  #70

I wouldn't ever sell my copy.


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Aug 14, 2010 22:13 as a reply to  @ Bear Dale's post |  #71

Why buy a new $1200 dollar lens and then turn around and get it repaired, I do not get it.




  
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Aug 14, 2010 23:00 |  #72

ed from pa wrote in post #10723005 (external link)
Why buy a new $1200 dollar lens and then turn around and get it repaired, I do not get it.

????


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Aug 14, 2010 23:06 |  #73

ed from pa wrote in post #10723005 (external link)
Why buy a new $1200 dollar lens and then turn around and get it repaired, I do not get it.

I agree....wouldn't these lenses go through quality control before being shipped?


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Aug 14, 2010 23:57 |  #74

ed from pa wrote in post #10723005 (external link)
Why buy a new $1200 dollar lens and then turn around and get it repaired, I do not get it.

Because it's free. What are the other alternatives, keep buying copies until you get a good one? Or just avoid the lens entirely because there's variance amongst copies? I do not get it.




  
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Aug 14, 2010 23:58 |  #75

emitecaps wrote in post #10723401 (external link)
Because it's free. What are the other alternatives, keep buying copies until you get a good one? Or just avoid the lens entirely because there's variance amongst copies? I do not get it.

well i hate that for 1200 bucks copies vary, but thats why i test in store.


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