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Jan 10, 2012 10:44 |  #616

Thanks folks...Great link. Will read up after I read the freakin' 200 pages of other stuff I really need to be concentrating on! Ahhh, grad school!


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Jan 10, 2012 12:06 as a reply to  @ post 13679524 |  #617

idsurfer wrote in post #13679505 (external link)
Also, are you folks turning OS on and off when you take the lens on and off? I'll never remember to do that! I'm a little confused with the manual. Thanks


The line in the manual about turning off the OS is the same in all of the Sigma lenses. But the Sigma lenses appear to handles OS differently depending on the model. The 28-200 appears to leave OS on all the time. The 17-70 f2.8-4 Macro OS HSM waits a full 60 seconds before turning off the OS. I have removed these lenses while the OS was engaged and didn't break anything but I can see how it would be a good idea not to.

The 70-200 f2.8 EX DG OS HSM lens in particular shuts off the OS just two seconds after you release your half press on the shutter (or back button focus). So if you let off the buttons and it takes you two seconds before you take the lens off, the OS is already disengaged and you have nothing to worry about. This is the same as the Canon.(The Canon manual recommends that one lets the IS settle before dismounting the lens.)
If you don't want to wait that two seconds you can turn off the camera, or you can turn off the OS on the lens before removing it. Both will immediately shut off the OS. But I'm pretty sure this line in the manual really is meant for some of the other lenses where the OS runs for a long time after releasing the shutter button or even continually.


There's another complete thread dedicated to switching off the OS here:
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1128286

The short version is this:
1.) Different lenses leave the OS on for different lengths of time - ranges seem to be from 2 to 60 seconds.
2.) It is a good idea to make sure the OS is off before removing the lens.
3.) You can do this by either turning off the OS, turning off the camera, or waiting and listening for it to turn itself off (in all cases so far, turning off the camera turns off the OS as well)
4.) Get to know how each of your lenses handles OS and you won't have anything to worry about.


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Jan 10, 2012 18:38 |  #618

Thanks for the info Kevin

Inspired by one of Mondayshift's great shots over in the 5DII thread..Really going to have to spend some time with this lens.

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Jan 10, 2012 18:40 |  #619

I know it isn't the latest version, but here's one I took with the old HSM I version of this lens (no OS)

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Jan 10, 2012 21:48 |  #620

av8r wrote in post #13679560 (external link)
I agree. The WB was slightly cooler with the Sigma. Weirdly enough the Canon required more NR and sharpening (not by much) which confuses me. The WB could have been that my daughter was standing camera left making her lunch when I took the Canon shots. Either way...as much as I want to do it...it's very hard to justify the difference in cost between these two lenses.

Actually I'd say almost all of the variances could be explained by the light reflected or blocked by your daughter. With a difference in light, you're going to see slightly different noise levels given the same ISO settings, WB differences based on color of clothing reflecting the light, focus accuracy based on amount of light.

In any case, I agree with the point that it's extremely difficult to justify the Canon. Plus this lens is a lot less attention-grabbing being black :)


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Jan 10, 2012 22:33 |  #621

ryane67 wrote in post #13683232 (external link)
In any case, I agree with the point that it's extremely difficult to justify the Canon. Plus this lens is a lot less attention-grabbing being black :)

This is a positive for me. But some of course prefer the attention you get with a white lens. Personally I'd prefer not to be a theft magnet.


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Jan 11, 2012 03:53 |  #622

kfreels wrote in post #13683490 (external link)
This is a positive for me. But some of course prefer the attention you get with a white lens. Personally I'd prefer not to be a theft magnet.

I agree.

I had a 70-200 f4IS and the attraction it bought was incredible.

One comment I cringed over was:

"You look like Papparazi"...


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Jan 11, 2012 08:45 |  #623

As silly as it sounds, the white on the canon rules it out for me. I already have a hard time with carrying around the DSLR with prime and a flash. I like to blend in. I have been playing with this new one for a couple days and the reality of it is is that I am not sure if I will be able to tolerate the size of it. Not that I'm weak and don't want to carry it, but holy cow it's big! A real head turner. Again, if it was white it would be out. Maybe I'll slowly introduce it to the public...;)


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Jan 11, 2012 10:39 |  #624

idsurfer wrote in post #13684976 (external link)
As silly as it sounds, the white on the canon rules it out for me. I already have a hard time with carrying around the DSLR with prime and a flash. I like to blend in. I have been playing with this new one for a couple days and the reality of it is is that I am not sure if I will be able to tolerate the size of it. Not that I'm weak and don't want to carry it, but holy cow it's big! A real head turner. Again, if it was white it would be out. Maybe I'll slowly introduce it to the public...;)

They will get used to it. :-)

They often think it has the resolving power of a telecope though...


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Jan 11, 2012 13:55 |  #625

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They will get used to it. :-)

They often think it has the resolving power of a telecope though...

Yeah. I heard "Man I bet that lens is at least 1000x, isn't it?" in DC. Then I have a friend who insists that the 55-250 is better because it has wider range, it's longer, and more compact....and it is designed specifically for digital cameras......;)


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Jan 11, 2012 13:57 |  #626

idsurfer wrote in post #13684976 (external link)
As silly as it sounds, the white on the canon rules it out for me. I already have a hard time with carrying around the DSLR with prime and a flash. I like to blend in. I have been playing with this new one for a couple days and the reality of it is is that I am not sure if I will be able to tolerate the size of it. Not that I'm weak and don't want to carry it, but holy cow it's big! A real head turner. Again, if it was white it would be out. Maybe I'll slowly introduce it to the public...;)

It's definitely big.. and heavy. I took it out on my lunch break yesterday. Walking around for 30 minutes, adding a little support to the lens with my left hand, as my neck strap is on the camera, my arm was a bit tired!


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Jan 11, 2012 16:49 |  #627

ryane67 wrote in post #13686765 (external link)
It's definitely big.. and heavy. I took it out on my lunch break yesterday. Walking around for 30 minutes, adding a little support to the lens with my left hand, as my neck strap is on the camera, my arm was a bit tired!

You need an R-strap or one of the cheaper Ebay Quick Straps for this heavy lens.

I wouldn't personally wear a kneck strap with this, asking for an injury...


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Jan 11, 2012 16:54 |  #628

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You need an R-strap or one of the cheaper Ebay Quick Straps for this heavy lens.

I wouldn't personally wear a kneck strap with this, asking for an injury...

Awesome, more junk to buy!! ;)


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Jan 11, 2012 17:11 |  #629

idsurfer wrote in post #13687843 (external link)
Awesome, more junk to buy!! ;)

This forum has ways of making your wallet talk...


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Jan 11, 2012 17:52 |  #630

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Awesome, more junk to buy!! ;)

I have this one. Just $10 and it works great.
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