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Aug 13, 2010 09:12 |  #46

Can someone explain why everyone wants IS in 24-70? I understand that the lens is quite old and needs an update. But putting IS into already heavy lens would make it even heavier and more expensive.

I personally would like to see 24-70 with internal zoom and 14-24/2.8 or 12-24/4. I think the last two are what a lot of full-frame shooters are really lacking.




  
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Aug 13, 2010 10:11 |  #47

Added weight from IS is a valid concern but don't worry about the price. IS cost will be a drop in the bucket of the price increase.


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Aug 13, 2010 10:20 |  #48

I don't think added IS will impact weight that much, by simply rethinking some of the material distribution (by using more lighter modern materials on the electronics etc) of the older design , the weight issue can be very well controlled without impacting the durability of the newer lens, heck look at the Kit 18-55, it has IS and is super light (grated is far from L quality) but you get the point.
I would love to see a 24-70 2.8 IS , more modern, better optics, newer coating ... etc
I had the 15-85 IS, it was tack sharp, pretty light, super fast AF and the IS was a miracle and addictive.
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Aug 13, 2010 10:25 |  #49

This is not likely in the works but this is what would be useful for me and I'm sure lots of little league parents. A 100-300 F4L. This would be about Ideal for soccer pictures. The 70-200 is good but can be a little short. The 100-400L is great focal length wise but a real light hog which is why I sold mine. I think F4 would be useful and keep the cost and physical size down some.


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Aug 13, 2010 11:18 |  #50

Bradfordguy wrote in post #10714506 (external link)
A 100-300 F4L.

Yeah, I'd go for this. I've come close to buying the Sigma several times and an up-to-date Canon version with latest IS, optical coatings, etc. would really be hard to resist.


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Aug 13, 2010 11:39 |  #51

borism wrote in post #10714472 (external link)
I don't think added IS will impact weight that much, by simply rethinking some of the material distribution (by using more lighter modern materials on the electronics etc) of the older design , the weight issue can be very well controlled without impacting the durability of the newer lens, heck look at the Kit 18-55, it has IS and is super light (grated is far from L quality) but you get the point.
I would love to see a 24-70 2.8 IS , more modern, better optics, newer coating ... etc
I had the 15-85 IS, it was tack sharp, pretty light, super fast AF and the IS was a miracle and addictive.
I am on that list

I don't think 18-55 or 15-85 are good indicators of what can be done to 24-70. Both of the lenses have variable aperture that doesn't come to 2.8 even on the wide side of the range.

Canon's 24-105 is lighter than 24-70, and has IS, and is a great lens, but it's not a 2.8. Getting that aperture to open up and keep it fixed across the whole zoom range that's what makes the lens become heavy and large. I have 17-55 2.8 IS and it's not a light or small lens.

We can see that 70-200 2.8 II didn't go down in weight. I think we shouldn't expect it from 24-70. I just hope that they can move glass around that way that they can keep zoom all internal.

As for IS, find that in 24-70 range I rarely go down to such slow shutter speeds that I need IS. And when I do, I actually do want blur to occur.

I think as a feature IS is great and is very very helpful when needed (especially in the telephoto range), the problem is that it's that I just don't think it's needed much in wide or standard range. And if that cost can be put to making a better glass - I'd rather have that, than IS.

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Added weight from IS is a valid concern but don't worry about the price. IS cost will be a drop in the bucket of the price increase.

Yes, unfortunately, I think you are right about the price. How much do you think it will cost? I think $1500 is the lower end of the price-range. Realistically, probably close to $1700.




  
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Aug 13, 2010 12:05 |  #52

Young_Werther wrote in post #10711026 (external link)
24-70 IS

me too


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Aug 13, 2010 12:36 |  #53

Also a 100-500/2.8 IS or better yet, 200-600/2.8 IS to compliment the 70-200 mk2.


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Aug 13, 2010 13:12 |  #54

ecub wrote in post #10715194 (external link)
Also a 100-500/2.8 IS or better yet, 200-600/2.8 IS to compliment the 70-200 mk2.

That thing would be HUGE.

Just look at the sigma 200-500 2.8.


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Aug 13, 2010 13:20 |  #55

wask_ wrote in post #10715395 (external link)
That thing would be HUGE.

Just look at the sigma 200-500 2.8.

Yeah, but I would much prefer a white one the a green one.


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Aug 13, 2010 14:53 |  #56

mike cabilangan wrote in post #10712582 (external link)
well if we're talking fantasy ... i'd like to be included in the photos myself.

a 360 degree fisheye would be great

You can do that with the 10-22. Aim a bit too low or lean back while shooting and your feet show up.


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Aug 13, 2010 15:45 |  #57

Would love to see a EF 35mm f/1.8 USM or a EF 28 f/1.4 USM.

Maybe the EF-S 50-125mm f/2.8 IS USM .... to compliment the 17-55mm.


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Aug 13, 2010 15:59 |  #58

I'd like to see a prime between 10-20 that doesn't cost over 1500 dollars.

I'd suspect the 50 1.4 will be replaced.


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Aug 13, 2010 16:52 as a reply to  @ plasticmotif's post |  #59

I am waiting for the new 24-70L MKII and then I am set on lenses. Then for the 1D MKV :)




  
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Aug 13, 2010 17:10 |  #60

They should replace the 50s with newer models.


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