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Aug 13, 2010 09:15 |  #1

So working in the web industry, it's always been an adage that you should avoid flash for photography portfolio websites and such like but still we continue to churn them out.
With hardware like ipads being unable to display flash do you think it'll finally die out or do people like it too much?


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Aug 15, 2010 01:14 |  #2

I am an apple guy and own both iPad and iPhones but my gallery remains in flash. I am how ever contemplating an HTML gallery when flash can not be displayed.

I don't think flash is going anywhere anytime soon but Who knows.......


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Aug 15, 2010 22:25 as a reply to  @ nez's post |  #3
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There are SO MANY alternatives (such as using JQuery) to create "cool transitions" for photos without using Adobe Flash.

Flash is, and always will be, the scourge of the web.




  
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Aug 19, 2010 11:48 as a reply to  @ mountainpano's post |  #4

While my entire website is not flash, my galleries are. I have a pretty harsh attitude though on people not being able to view my galleries if they don't have flash....I don't care, if you want to see them bad enough go to a computer that has flash. I don't see flash going anywhere, it's here to stay.


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Aug 19, 2010 13:02 |  #5

Flash is in use for Android apps, apple just doesnt want it....




  
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Aug 19, 2010 17:11 |  #6

switchblade5984 wrote in post #10751063 (external link)
Flash is in use for Android apps, apple just doesnt want it....

True story, but in the mean time there is frash lol
but not everybody jailbreaks their iDevices


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Aug 19, 2010 21:52 |  #7

I don't think it's dead or will ever die. People like it and it give the website a nice feel and interactivity for the user. In fact, I am willing to bet that adobe will try to figure out a way to allow websites to read this or maybe try to develop a browser that can read flash. It looks too good to throw out.


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Aug 19, 2010 21:55 |  #8

It's dead, Jim.




  
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Aug 21, 2010 13:54 as a reply to  @ Todd Lambert's post |  #9

Just don't do it. Most portfolio sites using Flash can look and function exactly the same with JavaScript. And they will work in all mobile devices like the iPad.


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Aug 26, 2010 04:34 as a reply to  @ ayn's post |  #10
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Presentation is everything...goes two ways doesn't it...though, consider this. Of all the icons, all the legends in photography, these guys havent been hurt by using flash in their sites. Why? Its more than being seen, its being remembered. Being unique, being interesting, interactive, involving an audience rather than...being there. They can find your website. So what. They can see some of your images, yippee...but if they do not remember you because you lack the design that grabs them...your presentation is worthless.

These photographers have not been damaged by having a flash based element or website...photographer​s like

www.chasejarvis.com (external link)

or Kevin Then
http://www.kevinthen.c​om/index.html (external link)

Vincent Laforet starts with a video...fitting, but look...also in flash
www.vincentlaforet.com (external link)

David Jay the wedding photo-speaker-guy who manages show it, which is predominately made of flash
www.davidjay.com (external link)

Music, video, splash page, flash for jasmine star too
http://jasmine-star.com/ (external link)

Chris Rainer, photojournalist
http://www.chrisrainie​r.com/ (external link)
(oh no look, music..ooooo)

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Aug 26, 2010 06:10 |  #11

Karl Johnston wrote in post #10791052 (external link)
Presentation is everything...goes two ways doesn't it...though, consider this. Of all the icons, all the legends in photography, these guys havent been hurt by using flash in their sites. Why? Its more than being seen, its being remembered. Being unique, being interesting, interactive, involving an audience rather than...being there. They can find your website. So what. They can see some of your images, yippee...but if they do not remember you because you lack the design that grabs them...your presentation is worthless.

These photographers have not been damaged by having a flash based element or website...photographer​s like

www.chasejarvis.com (external link)

or Kevin Then
http://www.kevinthen.c​om/index.html (external link)

Vincent Laforet starts with a video...fitting, but look...also in flash
www.vincentlaforet.com (external link)

David Jay the wedding photo-speaker-guy who manages show it, which is predominately made of flash
www.davidjay.com (external link)

Music, video, splash page, flash for jasmine star too
http://jasmine-star.com/ (external link)

Chris Rainer, photojournalist
http://www.chrisrainie​r.com/ (external link)
(oh no look, music..ooooo)

National Geographic
http://www.nationalgeo​graphicassignment.com/ (external link)

Some cracking websites there..... love Chris Rainer's. That is one site that uses sound very effectively.

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Aug 26, 2010 09:45 |  #12

I'm sorry... I'm not very impressed. It's Flash, yep. Wooooo, there's some music or some sound. No thanks. It's becoming more and more apparent that visitors don't want these things. Just look at the web 3 years ago vs where it is today and where it appears to be going. In that timeline, you find less and less Flash use. That's for several valid reasons..

Unfortunately, photographers spent money a few years ago to have Flash websites built for their sites. Because of this, and because they often refuse to accept change, they've stuck with the use of Flash.

Photography truly is one of the last areas where Flash use is rampant. Music and artist sites is another, but that's mostly because Flash is still the best delivery method for audio on the web.

I for one, don't want to give up usability, easy of updating and search engine ranking(just to name a few) all for the benefit of having some lame jazz song or some stupid "springy" navigation that does nothing more than piss off my visitors. This isn't an improvement, it's steps back. Flash is now starting to look old. Not any particular Flash site, just the whole genre. It's like seing animated gifs now, or a java applet. It just makes your site look dated to your visitors.(if they can even see it on their iPhones or iPads.)




  
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Aug 26, 2010 13:16 as a reply to  @ Todd Lambert's post |  #13

Agreed with what Todd said, completely. I have flash blocker installed and if a photog uses Flash I typically just don't look at their site.


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