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vipergts831 wrote in post #10736975 (external link)
FYI2: I want a D3S. Just felt like throwing that out there. :lol:

Why?


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Aug 17, 2010 09:02 |  #32

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Why?

Use it once Mike and you will understand. ;)


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vipergts831 wrote in post #10737009 (external link)
Use it once Mike and you will understand. ;)

I shot the d700, d3s, and my 5d2 at a wedding I second shot at a month or two ago. I have to tell you, I wasn't super impressed...they all felt about the same. My question stands, what do you not have in your 7d that this camera can offer that you actually NEED?


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Aug 17, 2010 09:09 |  #34

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having owned a 5Dii for 9 months, then a D700 for a year, and now a 7D, let me add my $.02.

For what you want to shoot (landscapes and studio) the 5Dii will work fine for you. But you'll be initially disappointed with the speed of the AF and just the body in general (black out time, shutter reaction etc). It works great for what you want to shoot and it can even do sports when needed, but it IS a slower system. The 7D is a very similar camera to the D700/D300 though. Obviously the sensor is different, but it's speed is similar as are it's options. But for things that aren't moving that quick the 5Dii is great. And it can do sports, just not as well as some other options.

I did see a video on youtube yesterday comparing it to 7D and it was a world of difference. To be honest i dont really shoot more then 2-3 shots at a time. And for the most part, thats often not on purpose. Mostly because i held the trigger down too long with the d300s in Ch mode.

As far as sports, i dont really shoot much , as never spend the money on great seats, as you can tell im spending it all on cam equipment :lol:

Not sure if I would even miss the speed but i guess i would only find out if i made the switch.


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Aug 17, 2010 09:16 as a reply to  @ swerv927's post |  #35

A word of warning.

I went from manual Nikons (FA and FE) to Canon AF (Eos-3) and it was an extremely difficult transition. The two companies are miles apart in the way they lay out the controls, what they think is or is not important etc. I paid for a one-day "introduction to the Eos-3" course which eased some of the pain.

I'm very pleased to have switched, but would think twice before seriously contemplating it again.


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I shot the d700, d3s, and my 5d2 at a wedding I second shot at a month or two ago. I have to tell you, I wasn't super impressed...they all felt about the same. My question stands, what do you not have in your 7d that this camera can offer that you actually NEED?

Mike its like saying i want a ferrari. Do i need it? Nope. Do i want it? Yes. My infiniti can do just fine but that ferrari. Man! Truth be told the D3s is just an iso monster. I hate flash! I try to shoot everything without it (I know some will say just use flash but i just dont like it. To each thier own ;)) I love that its 12mp. I had 12 on my XSI and felt its the most that ill ever need. I dont crop what so ever. Love the ergonomics of it (some might not but i do). Focus system and images are awesome out of the rig. No other camera besides my own has impressed me like that. So ill continue to drive my infiniti and when i get that old man money ill drive that ferrari one day. :D...by then it will be like a 1989 ferrari testarosa ;):lol:


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Aug 17, 2010 09:23 |  #37

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A word of warning.

I went from manual Nikons (FA and FE) to Canon AF (Eos-3) and it was an extremely difficult transition. The two companies are miles apart in the way they lay out the controls, what they think is or is not important etc. I paid for a one-day "introduction to the Eos-3" course which eased some of the pain.

I'm very pleased to have switched, but would think twice before seriously contemplating it again.

Thanks for the warning. Im fully aware that the layout of the buttons even the menus are very much different. It was actually the reason i was put off and went Nikon d300s. I originally shot with an Olympus E-3 and the nikon was a much smoother transition, as far as button layout/ergonomics. Even in store yesterday fiddling around with the 5dmkii, i was a bit lost at first.

But with anything, the more you use it, the more you get accustomed to it.


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Mike its like saying i want a ferrari. Do i need it? Nope. Do i want it? Yes. My infiniti can do just fine but that ferrari. Man! Truth be told the D3s is just an iso monster. I hate flash! I try to shoot everything without it (I know some will say just use flash but i just dont like it. To each thier own ;)) I love that its 12mp. I had 12 on my XSI and felt its the most that ill ever need. I dont crop what so ever. Love the ergonomics of it (some might not but i do). Focus system and images are awesome out of the rig. No other camera besides my own has impressed me like that. So ill continue to drive my infiniti and when i get that old man money ill drive that ferrari one day. :D...by then it will be like a 1989 ferrari testarosa ;):lol:

Omar, dont forget the leather gloves when handling the D3s :lol:


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Omar, dont forget the leather gloves when handling the D3s :lol:

lol and the boat shoes with no socks with a sweater around my neck :lol:


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Mike its like saying i want a ferrari. Do i need it? Nope. Do i want it? Yes. My infiniti can do just fine but that ferrari. Man! Truth be told the D3s is just an iso monster. I hate flash! I try to shoot everything without it (I know some will say just use flash but i just dont like it. To each thier own ;)) I love that its 12mp. I had 12 on my XSI and felt its the most that ill ever need. I dont crop what so ever. Love the ergonomics of it (some might not but i do). Focus system and images are awesome out of the rig. No other camera besides my own has impressed me like that. So ill continue to drive my infiniti and when i get that old man money ill drive that ferrari one day. :D...by then it will be like a 1989 ferrari testarosa ;):lol:

I suppose, though I found the colors to be drab between the two Nikons relative to my Canon. Though that might have been the settings. Someone pointed out that they give awesome color when tweaked.

I will say though, I used the d700 and 70-200mm VRII for most of the night. I want that lens to have my babies....

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I suppose, though I found the colors to be drab between the two Nikons relative to my Canon. Though that might have been the settings. Someone pointed out that they give awesome color when tweaked.

I will say though, I used the d700 and 70-200mm VRII for most of the night. I want that lens to have my babies....
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Colors definitely need tweaking either in cam or post process. Even if the adjustment is small, i alway touch it a bit. I feel like i'll need to do less and less of that with canon.


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Aug 17, 2010 09:52 as a reply to  @ MichaelBernard's post |  #42

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Not sure if I would even miss the speed but i guess i would only find out if i made the switch.

it's not just FPS though. A 5 series is a slower more deliberate experience. Hard to explain really. And it's not necessarily a BAD thing, it's just different.


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Aug 17, 2010 10:38 |  #43

Heading over to mess around with it some more. Luckily im not too far from B&H and have access to one.

Its just that B&H has great lighting, so it makes any camera perform great..lol


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Aug 17, 2010 11:35 as a reply to  @ swerv927's post |  #44

I have used Nikon for over 10 years and have only very recently made the switch..... I found it a huge consideration before making the jump but ultimately for me it's all about the results...... I'm not sure why or even if others would agree but I do prefer the colors and tones from my new Canon. I had a D700 and D3S and now have just the 5MK2. I will get a second body hopefully when the next EOS1 is released but currently I am very pleased I made the switch. :)


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Aug 17, 2010 12:45 |  #45

Nikon and Canon certainly have different interpretations of colour. Canon traditionally favour more red. Certainly I don't like Canons "Landscape" or even "natural" colouring, preferring to use "faithful" as my base before post processing.


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