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Aug 17, 2010 17:37 |  #1
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Saw this interesting article about how to do a 10k wedding.
While it's Slightly dismaying for photographers with a real passion for wedding photography, though my point in researching these type of blogs was to understand from the consumer's point of view what they want, what they look for, what they're searching for. Maybe I'm weird. Anyone else do this? Instead of photographer's blogs I'm scouring for wedding planners, brides', etc.

http://www.alosangeles​love.com …dding-in-los-angeles.html (external link)

There's a break down on costs..catering is about 4 grand, that's reasonable. Though I find it interesting how they value the photographer. From the article:

Photography ($1000 goal)
THIS one is tricky, because that's about 1/3 of what a photographer usually costs.
  • Start by finding a photographer you REALLY like, and asking them if they have an assistant, or know anyone who is just breaking into the business, who would be willing to shoot your wedding for the pics, referral and experience. These days, every photographer has an assistant.
  • Think about cutting down your photography time - nix the getting ready shots, get the group shots, shove the big reception stuff (toasts, cake cutting, first dance) to the front of the evening.
  • My next-last recommendation is that old standby craigslist, but see if you can find a shooter that matches your style, and comes with referrals. There's the whole argument in wedding world that craigslist makes it harder for all of us, including craigslist vendors, to get paid what the work is worth, but a 10k wedding is a 10k wedding. Try an avoid the hacky shooters - you'll know them when you see them.
  • My last recommendation? Set up a flickr account for your wedding and put disposable cameras on the tables. Between the two of them, you'll get a ton of great shots.
  • If you REALLY want pro pics of you in your wedding dress, schedule a day-after or before shoot, which will cost you tons less.
  • Between/in a combination of all those, you'll make your $1,000 photography budget.

Ironically flowers are bracketed and valued as the same price as the photographer. Flowers last what, a week? If that, if they are not dried or even kept...yet they budget to skimp on a photographer who's images and prints last...lifetime. You're not going to remember what those flowers looked like when you're both 89 and trying to remember what you even looked like back then.


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Aug 17, 2010 17:41 |  #2

Depends on how much one values wedding photos. Some just don't care about them...




  
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Aug 17, 2010 17:51 |  #3

The disposable cameras is funny, I use to work in a pro photo lab and boy the photos people got out of them are terrible, but thats because most people don't even charge up the flash before taking the photo.

Can you imagine calling a pro and ask for their assistant to shoot their wedding at a cheaper rate.


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Aug 17, 2010 17:54 |  #4
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People really spend 1 grand on flowers? I better do more detail shots so they remember how special those flowers were ;)


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Aug 17, 2010 17:58 |  #5
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Karl Johnston wrote in post #10740157 (external link)
Ironically flowers are bracketed and valued as the same price as the photographer. Flowers last what, a week? If that, if they are not dried or even kept...yet they budget to skimp on a photographer who's images and prints last...lifetime...

what if you just get pics that last until, say, middle age? :D


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Aug 17, 2010 17:59 |  #6

imagesbybarbara wrote in post #10740229 (external link)
Can you imagine calling a pro and ask for their assistant to shoot their wedding at a cheaper rate.

I was just sitting here thinking the same thing. :rolleyes:




  
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Aug 17, 2010 18:01 |  #7

HOw much do they have budgeted for the dress? Probably at least $1000. NOBODY would remember what you looked like in your wedding dress without quality wedding photos.


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Aug 17, 2010 22:39 |  #8

And find a second hand dress and plastic flowers.


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Aug 17, 2010 22:57 |  #9

I got a free dress on Craigslist and skipped the flowers (with the exception of my bouquet which was fake). But I also didn't pay for a photographer. :) It's priorities. Some people have different ones than pictures (though, again, I LOVE my wedding pics, taken by my Mom's cousin with a Rebel). My priority was eating so I had a $3,000 wedding.

But in general, this article has horrible advice. My assistants are not at all photographers! They are my assistants. They assist me by hauling around gear and getting the "groom sees the bride for the first time" money shot since I'm usually on the bride. With the exception of one, you'd be greatly disappointed hiring one of my assistants!


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Aug 19, 2010 18:58 |  #10

I'm an assistant/second shooter and would like to think that I would make a great primary photographer, but I agree, most second shooters/assistants aren't mains. I would also feel quite uncomfortable if one of the photographers I shot for had a client choose me over them purely because of price. If they referred me, great, but if I took their booking, i don't think i would do that to my friends intentionally, and I consider all the photographers I shoot with/for friends.


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Aug 19, 2010 19:31 |  #11

It really annoys me that these people still advise couples to buy disposable cameras for the tables, with very few exceptions speaking to our clients after their wedding its the thing that disappoints them the most and the one thing they considered a complete waste of money. Crappy disposable cameras with small films and crappy flashes are the worst thing possible for capturing events in what is usually quite low light conditions.

I advise couples to get our photo booth instead or if not ours someone else's, either way they will end up with better photos than they will with crappy disposables.


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Aug 19, 2010 23:00 |  #12

jonwhite wrote in post #10753396 (external link)
It really annoys me that these people still advise couples to buy disposable cameras for the tables, with very few exceptions speaking to our clients after their wedding its the thing that disappoints them the most and the one thing they considered a complete waste of money. Crappy disposable cameras with small films and crappy flashes are the worst thing possible for capturing events in what is usually quite low light conditions.

I advise couples to get our photo booth instead or if not ours someone else's, either way they will end up with better photos than they will with crappy disposables.

Don't forget all the drunk people trying to take pictures. I developed a few from my wedding, most were blurred, under exposed or had objects/people in the way.




  
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Aug 20, 2010 08:57 |  #13

Bobasaur wrote in post #10754450 (external link)
Don't forget all the drunk people trying to take pictures. I developed a few from my wedding, most were blurred, under exposed or had objects/people in the way.

Yeah but that makes our photos look even better! ;)

Just kidding. I agree these are useless. Still, I shoot a wedding tomorrow and they will have disposable cameras on each table... :rolleyes:


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Aug 20, 2010 09:20 |  #14

imagesbybarbara wrote in post #10740229 (external link)
Can you imagine calling a pro and ask for their assistant to shoot their wedding at a cheaper rate.

lol... here i am trying to think how I would respond to that.

Maybe offer to be their wedding photographer consultant for helping them find a cheaper photographer at a rate of $250/hr.


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Aug 20, 2010 23:20 |  #15

jonwhite wrote in post #10753396 (external link)
It really annoys me that these people still advise couples to buy disposable cameras for the tables, with very few exceptions speaking to our clients after their wedding its the thing that disappoints them the most and the one thing they considered a complete waste of money. Crappy disposable cameras with small films and crappy flashes are the worst thing possible for capturing events in what is usually quite low light conditions.

I advise couples to get our photo booth instead or if not ours someone else's, either way they will end up with better photos than they will with crappy disposables.

Friends of mine used the disposable P&S idea at their reception. All the kids got ahold of them, and when the pictures were developed, they had camera after camera full of pictures of peoples' butts. Not exactly wedding album material.


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