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Getting a GND, but only 1, should I get 1 stop or 2 stops?

 
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Aug 18, 2010 07:28 |  #1

All in the title, but I am going to get a GND filter to play around. I am debating whether I should get a filter that is 1 stop at the top, or 2 stops.

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Aug 18, 2010 07:33 |  #2

I prefer 3 stop soft edge. 1 stop is relatively little difference, so if the sky is bright, your foreground will still be underexposed or the foreground will be fine and the sky will be blown out.


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Aug 18, 2010 07:35 |  #3

Thanks for the help!

What's a decent brand, I usually buy b+w but there aren't too many GND's apparently?


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Aug 18, 2010 09:37 |  #4

lee / hitech / Singray

you will need a holder for either though they are only square type

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Aug 18, 2010 10:00 |  #5

I can't recommend this setup and this business enough http://www.2filter.com​/prices/htpackages.htm​l (external link)

You can get 2 - both a hard and a soft step, with the holder for less than $100. That's cheaper than buying one of the other brands. They work great. I actually handhold mine a lot of the time anyway, so the holder isn't that important to me. Just give them a call. They'll probably recommend a 2 step soft and a 3 step hard or the other way around - can't remember.


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Aug 18, 2010 19:22 |  #6

Thanks for the help, I'll give them a call tomorrow.

The thing with the square one is they seem harder to carry? I don't know.


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Aug 18, 2010 19:31 |  #7

They work better. You can slide the transition up and down to match your composition. Try that with a screw-on one.


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Aug 18, 2010 19:35 |  #8

I carry mine in this little pouch http://www.caselogic.c​om …l/index.cfm?mod​elid=65859 (external link)

You just take the little plastic ring out and you have a nice flat neoprene case. I bought a bunch of the old style, all black. They work great for small lenses too for storage inside packs.


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Aug 18, 2010 19:41 |  #9

1)So in theory, you can keep buying Conkin P Adapter Rings and then keep using the same filters?
2) Soft edge or hard edge?


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Aug 18, 2010 19:50 |  #10

1) Yes.
2) Depends on where you're shooting. Hard edges are for crisp, level horizons. Soft work better if the horizon's uneven.


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Aug 18, 2010 20:00 |  #11

All you need to buy is a 77mm Cokin P ring and then just buy the step up adapters for the ring size. I think that would be a lot cheaper.


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Aug 18, 2010 20:02 |  #12

3-stop soft edge here also :)


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Aug 18, 2010 21:01 |  #13

I hardly ever used my Cokin holder. I just found it more convenient to hold the GND in front of the lens since the exposures were relatively short. But yes, you can buy different size rings for your different size lenses. They just snap into the back of the cokin holder.

I tended to use the soft edge more than hard, but both serve their own purpose.


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Aug 18, 2010 21:19 |  #14

Thanks for all the advice, so why are the numbered .3, .6, .9, 1.2. If I understand that's 1 stop, 2 stops, 3 stops, 4 stops respectively?


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Aug 19, 2010 06:31 |  #15

Yes


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