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Photokina 2010 : 100-300L and IS2 on big whites

 
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Aug 18, 2010 09:56 |  #1

Photokina 2010 :

100-300L Will replace 100-400

The big whites Will have IS2. HIS ? No other info

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Aug 18, 2010 10:22 |  #2
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100-300 replacing 100-400? seems like a step backwards


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Aug 18, 2010 10:25 |  #3

It doesn't say that the 100-300L will replace the 100-400L.

Replacing 4 big whites is big, too big I think.


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Aug 18, 2010 12:38 |  #4

Sounds like a pointless lens to me. Too slow for sports photographers and not long enough for most wildlife photographers. Woohooo... I would have much rather seen a 300 f/4 L IS II or a 400 f/5.6 L IS.


Of course if the performance is as good as the 70-200 IS II, maybe it won't be so bad.


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Aug 18, 2010 12:41 as a reply to  @ Kiwikat's post |  #5

well if its a 100-300 2.8L to compete with sigma..that would be nice..but Canon with that L on it..I am sure it will cost 5grand compared to the $2700 sigma one


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Aug 18, 2010 14:33 |  #6

A 100-300 f/4.0 could be very interesting if it is fully compatible with teleconverters without IQ loss.


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Aug 18, 2010 15:06 |  #7

100-300L could be a replacement for the 100-400L if it's a constant f/4 and takes 1.4x TCs as well as the 70-200 f/4 does.
Too bad that it would be very long on the "short" end then, especially on APS-C cameras.

Let's see what happens. Maybe we'll know more tomorrow.


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Aug 18, 2010 15:14 |  #8

+1.

sth_ wrote in post #10745565 (external link)
100-300L could be a replacement for the 100-400L if it's a constant f/4


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Aug 18, 2010 15:23 |  #9

On the thread, the 100-300L is told to be a zoom ring.


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Aug 18, 2010 17:55 |  #10

cherrymoon wrote in post #10745656 (external link)
On the thread, the 100-300L is told to be a zoom ring.

I would rather have zoom over a push and pull.:)




  
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Aug 18, 2010 22:00 |  #11

Back in February, I posted this in the 100-400 redux thread:

After reading through the thread, I have noticed a lot of 200-400, 150-500, 100-400 II lenses suggested. It seems like everyone wants better AF performance, IQ, and a faster aperture all while keeping the price and size down.

What about a 100-300 f/4L IS?

Think about it. It could be similar in size to the current 300 f/4 IS, they could integrate one of the new IS systems, and faster AF. They could even make it internal zoom/focus and weather seal it too. It would be fast enough aperture wise for things like sports and would be plenty long for a lot of applications (especially on crop bodies) and small enough to hand hold. By decreasing the focal length range, they could improve IQ and get rid of the push pull zoom (dust pump).

While this might sound like a lot to ask for, I don't think it is too unreasonable. It would be a major upgrade over the 70-300 and a good alternative for many people.

I know many people are wanting more reach, but you can't have everything. I think by giving up the reach you could have everything else that has been discussed (price, IQ, size/weight, etc.)

What are your thoughts?

Fast forward a few months. I realize that a lens like this might not be the greatest for sports, but for someone like me, looking for a convenient and versatile tele zoom to compliment a wide zoom (10-22) and primes in between (50, 85, 100, 135), it might be perfect.


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Aug 18, 2010 22:08 |  #12

The main reasons why I like this idea:
1) More reach than 70-200
2) Better, faster, newer AF and IS than 300 f/4 IS
3) Better IQ and wider at all focal lengths than 100-400

Think 70-200 f/4 IS + 100mm

Now the bad part:
It would have to be at least as expensive as the 100-400 right? maybe $1800? $2000?


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Aug 20, 2010 09:58 as a reply to  @ tjbrock42's post |  #13

100-300 f/4 IS, I'm assuming?


3 Key Features:

  • Constant Aperture
  • Zoom
  • 300mm
Sounds Perfect! No other Canon lens does this. 4 Stop IS would just be a bonus. Constant aperture is a big one for me. I'd never buy the 100-400 for this reason. I'm guessing price will be at least $2k. A little spendy, but it could replace a LOT of lenses in people's bags...
  • 70-200 f/4
  • 70-200 f/4 IS
  • 70-200 f/2.8 IS + 1.4x
  • 300mm f/4 IS
  • 400mm f/5.6
  • 100-400
This all depends on if the IQ will hold up with a TC (on the new lens), but if it does, you could presumably drop several lenses out of your bag for this one. Of course, there would still be some situations where you would need an f/2.8 lens.

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Aug 20, 2010 10:04 as a reply to  @ BenJohnson's post |  #14

05Xrunner wrote in post #10744730 (external link)
well if its a 100-300 2.8L to compete with sigma..that would be nice...

cfibanez wrote in post #10745370 (external link)
A 100-300 f/4.0 could be very interesting if it is fully compatible with teleconverters without IQ loss.

Both of these would be nice, and both of course have been fielded very successfully by SIGMA for years now.
Many have been waiting for Canon to release similar IS equipped versions.

It would be a major upgrade over the 70-300 and a good alternative for many people.

Right, a better 300mm zoom is a good idea, ( even though Canon fields 6 300m zooms already ) it does not in any way help as a replacement for the only Canon 400mm zoom. I doubt either of these would be intended to "replace" the 100-400mm L though,. it would totally defeat the intended use of that lens.

Again, the idea is nothing new, you need only look at the current SIGMA 100-300mm f/4 to see one already in action. This is one of SIGMA's finest zoom optics, up there with the 120-300mm and 300-800mm for amazing image quality from a zoom.


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Aug 20, 2010 10:10 |  #15

tjbrock42 wrote in post #10747583 (external link)
... It seems like everyone wants better AF performance, IQ, and a faster aperture all while keeping the price and size down.

What about a 100-300 f/4L IS?

then you would need to put a 1.4x T-con to get out past 300mm, leaving you back at f/5.6 @ 400mm anyway,. with lower IQ wide open due to the T-Con,. so where would the advantage be in the wend? This makes this a much less than reasonable solution to the variable aperture 100-400mm, which is only f/5.6 when zoomed out anyway.

ie: a new 100-400mm could easily be f/4 still at 300mm, (not sure what f/stop the current 100-400mm is at 300mm) and still weigh as little as the SIGMA 100-300mm f/4... but by the time you are zoomed out past 300mm you start to stop down.

No, the beauty of the 100-400mm is it's flexibility and lightweight,. if they change that, they have lost the plot and made a totally different lens, and abandoned the advantages of the existing one.

I truly hope Canon is NOT listening to the requests for a constant aperture replacement for the 100-400mm, as frankly the only people wishing for this lens
- Don't own the 100-400mm, so they don't know what they are asking to be improved
- Don't understand the difference between a $5K super telephoto and a $1.5K hand holdable all day Swiss army knife.

The 100-400mm owners / shooters / lovers are NOT asking for it to be abandoned for one of these other options, they are asking for updated AF and IS,. and to have the optics reworked to modern standards in the hopes of any even better version of what already exists.


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