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Aug 19, 2010 06:41 |  #1

Can you guys post pictures of different gobos and effects?

I have some studio photoshoots coming up and want to have an Idea of how do you guys use them to create nice effects :)!!!

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Aug 19, 2010 08:34 |  #2

I make mine in Illustrator then bring it into photoshop on a onion layer using the displace filter or vanishing point filter.

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Aug 19, 2010 09:34 |  #3

I though OP was asking about gobo, a physical thing.


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Aug 19, 2010 10:36 |  #4

Gobos are physical. They GO BOfore a light sorce. I know, I know.... but GOBE is not as cute, so it is GOBO. They are basically cutouts to give an effect on the light that you may find in life. There are windows as mentioned, there are also tree branches, some look like camo.

Just google it and you will find tons of them. From dance club ones to trade show ones... http://www.google.com …n&tab=wi&biw=16​51&bih=815 (external link)


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Aug 19, 2010 10:39 |  #5

It's "gobo" because it was used for film first. It was "go before optics" first before it became "go between" for photography.


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Aug 19, 2010 11:54 |  #6

Mark1 wrote in post #10750210 (external link)
Gobos are physical. They GO BOfore a light sorce. I know, I know.... but GOBE is not as cute, so it is GOBO. They are basically cutouts to give an effect on the light that you may find in life. There are windows as mentioned, there are also tree branches, some look like camo.

I thought they were called cookies, not gobos?


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Aug 19, 2010 11:59 |  #7

bobbyz wrote in post #10750687 (external link)
I thought they were called cookies, not gobos?

They are also known as a cucoloris which is a type of gobo. You can make your own using black wrap foil.

http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Cucoloris (external link)


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Aug 19, 2010 12:39 |  #8

There are a few names they go by. Some people even call a flag a GOBO. As it does go before the light, it just blocks all the light


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Aug 19, 2010 12:46 |  #9

LOL

GOBOs are a few different things.


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Aug 19, 2010 12:52 |  #10

Seanzky wrote in post #10750244 (external link)
It's "gobo" because it was used for film first. It was "go before optics" first before it became "go between" for photography.

It's till "Go Before Optics", and just to be clear, when we say Film, we mean movie industry, not film as in "before digital" so we aren;t talking about a time period. And of course GOBOs are used live theatre. They go in theatrical lighting instruments..

It's use in Photography at all is the tiniest fraction of the industry,. like 1/100th of 1% of the industry.


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Aug 19, 2010 12:56 |  #11

breal101 wrote in post #10750724 (external link)
They are also known as a cucoloris which is a type of gobo. You can make your own using black wrap foil.

http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Cucoloris (external link)

Jyst FYI, I've worked in theatre lighting my whole life, including live theatre and film industries,. and I've never known a single person use the terms above as synonyms for GOBO.
We use GOBO only, never "cookie", never "Cucoloris",. so I don't know where GOBOs are also known as those terms.

I think this might be why the term is an "orphan" on Wiki, since the term has clearly been orphaned. :lol:

Seriously, they mean different things, the GOBO is used inside the lightning instrument before the lens, thus "Go before the Optics" of the lighting instrument itself. The Cookie etc, is placed in the path of the lights final output, it is not "projected" it is simply a cast shadow.

but I can assure you, it's not a term used in Theatre or Film industries for a Gobo to any remarkable degree.

we use "GOBO" or "Pattern" even for home made ones, so long as it is placed in the light instrument before the optics of said light.

The three largest suppliers in the U.S. are

Rosco, who call them GOBO;
http://www.rosco.com/u​s/products/index.cfm (external link)

Lee, who call them GOBO;
http://www.leefilters.​com/lighting/products/​gobos/ (external link)

GAM or Great American Market, who use "Pattern" and "GOBO";
http://www.gamonline.c​om/catalog/pattern_sea​rch.php (external link)


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Aug 19, 2010 13:22 |  #12

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #10751030 (external link)
Jyst FYI, I've worked in theatre lighting my whole life, including live theatre and film industries,. and I've never known a single person use the terms above as synonyms for GOBO.
We use GOBO only, never "cookie", never "Cucoloris",. so I don't know where GOBOs are also known as those terms.

I think this might be why the term is an "orphan" on Wiki, since the term has clearly been orphaned. :lol:

Seriously, they mean different things, the GOBO is used inside the lightning instrument before the lens, thus "Go before the Optics" of the lighting instrument itself. The Cookie etc, is placed in the path of the lights final output, it is not "projected" it is simply a cast shadow.

but I can assure you, it's not a term used in Theatre or Film industries for a Gobo to any remarkable degree.

we use "GOBO" or "Pattern" even for home made ones, so long as it is placed in the light instrument before the optics of said light.

The three largest suppliers in the U.S. are

Rosco, who call them GOBO;
http://www.rosco.com/u​s/products/index.cfm (external link)

Lee, who call them GOBO;
http://www.leefilters.​com/lighting/products/​gobos/ (external link)

GAM or Great American Market, who use "Pattern" and "GOBO";
http://www.gamonline.c​om/catalog/pattern_sea​rch.php (external link)

I had a studio next to a film production company and they used cucoloris to describe the ones that break up the light and gobo for a solid flag.

BTW, Did you know that Roxy Music is still touring? I heard the concert in Scotland was fantastic, they do a couple of shows in London in January. I know we share Avalon as one of our favorite albums.


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Aug 19, 2010 13:24 |  #13

I did not,. but now I will listen to Avalon on the way home from work! :)


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Aug 19, 2010 19:32 |  #14

I'm making a studio photoshoot and I would like to experiment a bit, so im going to buy a black umbrella and fill it with holes and shoot that to my grey background and see how it comes out with some gels :p


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Aug 19, 2010 22:58 |  #15

abbadon31 wrote in post #10749581 (external link)
I make mine in Illustrator then bring it into photoshop on a onion layer using the displace filter or vanishing point filter.

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What type of background is that and where can i get it?

I really like the cloudy black backgrounds - I just don't know how I can get my hands on it.


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