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Aug 24, 2010 11:30 | #47 CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #10778706 Whoa,. with those specs, at that Price, is the the Giant ( Canon Nikon ) killer for sure. 16MP, full HD video, 10FPS, and internal IS for $750.00! Nice!I'm still not sure how this will effect the final product.. ? This is some weird stuff.. read the info on DPReview. Now they need to get some fast USM type AF motors in their lenses.. and maybe with some firmware, or next model, they will get eh predictive AF needed for a 10FPS camera to work on par with some of the other bodies, But still to get this level of performance from a $750.00 camera, leaving us having to compare the AF with the $4.5K 1D MkIV... I mean wow. Sony actually has quite a few lenses with SSM, their equivalent of Canon's USM or Nikon's SWM. They've got the important zooms like Zeiss 16-25 and 24-70 f/2.8 with SSM, and the telephotos like the 70-200 f/2.8 and 70-400 f/4-5.6 also with SSM. They've got a good lineup of Zeiss primes too, but most of them use screw-driven AF. The big thing to note is that all of these lenses will be stabilized courtesy of the in-camera sensor based IS. Buy/Sell Feedback
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tkbslc Cream of the Crop 24,604 posts Likes: 45 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Utah, USA More info | Aug 24, 2010 12:39 | #48 Anyone notice the Viewfinder specs? 1.1x 100% coverage! That's on 1.5x crop, so it's going to be noticeably bigger than the 7D. One benefit of EVF is cheaper big viewfinders. I would like to experience it myself, though, for sure. Taylor
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bjyoder Goldmember 1,664 posts Joined Jun 2007 Location: Central Ohio More info | Aug 24, 2010 12:56 | #49 nphsbuckeye wrote in post #10777908 They certainly get an "A" for effort.
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mpix345 Goldmember 2,870 posts Likes: 69 Joined Dec 2006 More info | Damn, for $750 it really makes things interesting. Is it legit to think that a firmware upgrade could provide live view in 10fps burst mode?
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tkbslc Cream of the Crop 24,604 posts Likes: 45 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Utah, USA More info | Aug 24, 2010 13:11 | #51 996gt2 wrote in post #10778849 Their weak area seems to be supertele lenses...their only choice for a long tele is the Minolta 600mm f/4 APO G, which is an older and hard to find lens. There are plenty of Sigma superteles in Sony mount. Taylor
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Aug 24, 2010 13:15 | #52 bjyoder wrote in post #10779367 My thought exactly. It has a lot of nice, headline type features, but it seems to fall short of expectations in use (according to the DPReview article). I think the biggest thing that will push Canon and Nikon is the full-time phase detection AF during movie recording; that feature alone is going to go a long way to making SLRs a true go-to device for home movies and the like. Actually, DPReview didn't give it a gold award because of the features alone. Rather, it seems like this camera really does work well in actual use, provided that you aren't expecting it to have the same level of performance as a 1D Mark 4 or Nikon D3. Compare the A55 to a Digital Rebel or lower-end Nikon, and I think you'll see that the Sony definitely has the advantage. Ultimately though it is the 'bread and butter' stuff - the excellent all-round performance of the A55's key systems, its fluid ergonomics and largely hassle-free handling that really make it stand out, and we have no hesitation in giving it a gold award. Buy/Sell Feedback
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Aug 24, 2010 13:18 | #53 tkbslc wrote in post #10779481 There are plenty of Sigma superteles in Sony mount. That's true, didn't think of that earlier. And the built-in IS would really be a big benefit with superteles. Buy/Sell Feedback
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bjyoder Goldmember 1,664 posts Joined Jun 2007 Location: Central Ohio More info | Aug 24, 2010 13:31 | #54 996gt2 wrote in post #10779519 Actually, DPReview didn't give it a gold award because of the features alone. Rather, it seems like this camera really does work well in actual use, provided that you aren't expecting it to have the same level of performance as a 1D Mark 4 or Nikon D3. Compare the A55 to a Digital Rebel or lower-end Nikon, and I think you'll see that the Sony definitely has the advantage. I'm not trying to doubt that it will be a capable camera, but I have a feeling there are going to be many who try and tout the 10fps and full-time AF to make an argument for the "SRT" Sonys to be superior. The AF doesn't seem as good as the competition, and the 10fps - which is ostensibly for action - has serious drawbacks if you actually do want to shoot action.
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tkbslc Cream of the Crop 24,604 posts Likes: 45 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Utah, USA More info | Aug 24, 2010 13:38 | #55 This is the part that worries me about the EVF. Basically the EVF goes black when the camera is processing because the EVF and LCD are powered by the same video feed. It doesn't appear that it can keep the viewfinder updating in real time while taking the pictures in rapid succession so it would be near impossible to track the subject in the viewfinder. Whilst the A55 gives very impressive performance in terms of speed and burst depth, two things let it down when shooting continuous bursts. The first is a recovery time of 50 seconds, for some of which time the camera is essentially unusable - almost all of its available processing power being used to write the images to card. With a fast card installed, the camera never stops shooting unless you remove your finger from the shutter release. However, if after finishing a burst, you try to access image review, the A55 freezes. Both EVF and LCD black out, the camera remains completely frozen (except for AF, oddly, which still operates) for roughly 20 seconds. After this time has elapsed the A55 wakes up again, and allows image review, albeit it with a lag of several seconds between images. Only after the full 50 seconds of recovery time has elapsed does it return to its normal level of responsiveness. The second major issue with the A55's continuous shooting is that it cannot maintain live view in 10fps and 6fps capture. In 10fps mode the A55 shows a constantly updating slide show of the image you just took, which means that you can't accurately tell where you subject is, - only where it just was. This can be rather disconcerting when panning as you keep being given the impression that the subject is further back than it now actually is. It behaves differently in 6fps continuous shooting mode though - when set to 6fps the A55 shows a slideshow of images between the last one it just captured, and the one before that. This means that with your eye to the EVF, you're always looking at a stream of snapshots, essentially, each one of which was captured by the camera before the picture it just took. Presumably this is to give an indication of panning accuracy between captured images, but the overall effect is confusing. Taylor
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toxic Goldmember 3,498 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2008 Location: California More info | Aug 24, 2010 14:02 | #56 Er1kksen wrote in post #10777565 ...and which these cameras are probably pretty evenly matched against. The 500D and D90 aren't fantastic sports shooters either; any camera you buy in this price bracket is going to have performance issues for action situations and it's up to the photographer to develop the skills to work around them so that they're not an issue. Heck, I've shot sports (track and baseball) with the notoriously slow Pentax K20D, and people for decades before us have been shooting sports with all-manual film cameras, etc. Seriously, don't bring up film. That's just a cop-out argument. AF viewfinders and lenses don't compare. Yeah, the 7D is great. But like even the top pro cameras on the market, some situations will confuse its AF or metering, but like all other cameras the marketing literature for it would have us believe that the 7D's systems are too good to ever let that happen. You're missing the point. Every camerq can get confused. The issue is the A55 simply stinks at tracking anything moving, despite having all the advantages of a pellicle mirror. And what about that "recovery time"?
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whtchocla7e Member 91 posts Joined Aug 2010 More info | Aug 24, 2010 14:26 | #57 toxic wrote in post #10779787 You're missing the point. Every camerq can get confused. The issue is the A55 simply stinks at tracking anything moving, despite having all the advantages of a pellicle mirror. And what about that "recovery time"? Based on what? Your extensive testing? Because according to the people who already have these new cameras in their hands, tracking (10fps mode or not) ain't all that bad.
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CyberDyneSystems Admin (type T-2000) More info | Aug 24, 2010 15:10 | #58 Yes, I'd like to know how we drew the conclusion that AF "not as good as the 1D MkIV" is somehow translated to mean "Stinks" and " a lot worse than the 500D and D90" GEAR LIST
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tkbslc Cream of the Crop 24,604 posts Likes: 45 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Utah, USA More info | Aug 24, 2010 15:13 | #59 Agreed, this camera is in competition with the Nikon D5000 and Canon 550D. I think you could also make the claim that those cameras suck at tracking compared to the 1Dmkv and 7D. Taylor
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Aug 24, 2010 15:29 | #60 tkbslc wrote in post #10780200 Agreed, this camera is in competition with the Nikon D5000 and Canon 550D. I think you could also make the claim that those cameras suck at tracking compared to the 1Dmkv and 7D. Imaging Resource's full A55 review actually states that the AF is "comparable" to the 7D: Buy/Sell Feedback
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