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Aug 20, 2010 20:11 |  #1

How do people do it....as the T/S is manual focus.

I am considering getting one to add to my bag. Might drop the 50/1.4 when carrying. But i want to know how do people focus when people move around?

Do you set a focus plane and know where that is pre-shot and make sure your subject is on that plane?


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Aug 20, 2010 21:20 |  #2

Who uses a T/S at a wedding ?

Maybe for a ringshot and a patient bride.


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Aug 20, 2010 21:35 |  #3

There's a photographer I follow online a bit named Bobby Earle who has been using a T/S for a little while now. Whether or not you think it really fits is of course up to personal preference, but I think it fits rather well with some (and again not so well with others)

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Just scroll through the posts and there's several- as of now the most recent post has several


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Aug 20, 2010 21:37 |  #4

Raymond Lin wrote in post #10759364 (external link)
How do people do it....as the T/S is manual focus.

I am considering getting one to add to my bag. Might drop the 50/1.4 when carrying. But i want to know how do people focus when people move around?

Do you set a focus plane and know where that is pre-shot and make sure your subject is on that plane?

I don't shoot weddings anymore but there could be some creative uses for one. I would definitely have it on a second body. The procession shots in the days before autofocus were done by setting focus on a spot and having perfect timing. It helped to have a powerful flash that could give f/8 or f/11. I usually only shot about 100 to 120 shots for the whole wedding so spraying and praying wasn't an option.


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Aug 20, 2010 21:37 |  #5

Bobby Earle does quite a bit of wedding work with a TS.

You can find him on POTN:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.p​hp?u=71145

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http://bobbyearle.com/​blog/ (external link)

Pat Furey does as well.

On POTN:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.p​hp?u=65002

His site:
http://patfureyblog.co​m/ (external link)


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Aug 20, 2010 23:04 |  #6

Raymond Lin wrote in post #10759364 (external link)
How do people do it....as the T/S is manual focus.

I am considering getting one to add to my bag. Might drop the 50/1.4 when carrying. But i want to know how do people focus when people move around?

Do you set a focus plane and know where that is pre-shot and make sure your subject is on that plane?

I think you're overestimating the difficulty of manually focusing a bit.. Get an Eg-s focusing screen for your 5D2 and you should be able to nail focus pretty easily. There will obviously be a learning curve here which is greater than other lenses since you'll have to be come proficient at tilt/shifting as manually focusing but if you just work it in slowly you should manage fine. Focus confirmation still works and you can also use live-view zooming as an alternative although I find the Eg-s to be sufficient.

The Eg-s is really a game changer because it will show the thinner DOF of lenses faster than f/4.




  
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Aug 20, 2010 23:07 |  #7

I recently saw some T/S shots that were jaw dropping. They were street candids and not wedding shots, but the same princibles apply. I'll see if I can find the post.


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Aug 20, 2010 23:16 |  #8

Wow.. Those T/S shots are stunning... I've always wanted to try one of these lenses.


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Aug 21, 2010 02:17 |  #9

phd wrote in post #10760095 (external link)
I think you're overestimating the difficulty of manually focusing a bit.. Get an Eg-s focusing screen for your 5D2 and you should be able to nail focus pretty easily. There will obviously be a learning curve here which is greater than other lenses since you'll have to be come proficient at tilt/shifting as manually focusing but if you just work it in slowly you should manage fine. Focus confirmation still works and you can also use live-view zooming as an alternative although I find the Eg-s to be sufficient.

The Eg-s is really a game changer because it will show the thinner DOF of lenses faster than f/4.

This man speaks truth.

The Eg-S has made a huge difference with the use of all my lenses, and it has a significant impact on the TSE too.


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Aug 21, 2010 05:59 |  #10

this thread makes me want to grab a TS-E 45mm tomorrow. LOL.


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Aug 21, 2010 08:43 |  #11

How about instead of buying such a speciality lens and using it the complete opposite to it's intended purpose just do the blurring in post? That's all you're doing, adding a gradient blur either side of the subject, except you're wanting to do it with an expensive and manual focus lens.


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Aug 21, 2010 09:26 |  #12

The Ran wrote in post #10761563 (external link)
How about instead of buying such a speciality lens and using it the complete opposite to it's intended purpose just do the blurring in post? That's all you're doing, adding a gradient blur either side of the subject, except you're wanting to do it with an expensive and manual focus lens.

I want a real ts look - not one that is shopped. If I don't purchase a TS-E 45mm, how will I ever learn what ts is all about?

I want to be able to control the shift amount to give a feel for my photos.

Are you saying that I should just upgrade my 50 1.4 to the 50L? Or save up for a more specialized lens like the 200f2L. Lol.


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Aug 21, 2010 09:37 |  #13

The Ran wrote in post #10761563 (external link)
How about instead of buying such a speciality lens and using it the complete opposite to it's intended purpose just do the blurring in post? That's all you're doing, adding a gradient blur either side of the subject, except you're wanting to do it with an expensive and manual focus lens.

Sorry, no. There is more to a TSE lens than trick blurring.

Additionally, a TSE lens may have specialty capability, but it is also a prime manual focus lens, and flexible to be used as such. It's not a fisheye, for instance, which is entirely specialized.


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Aug 21, 2010 09:45 |  #14

ken2000ac wrote in post #10761754 (external link)
Sorry, no. There is more to a TSE lens than trick blurring.

Additionally, a TSE lens may have specialty capability, but it is also a prime manual focus lens, and flexible to be used as such. It's not a fisheye, for instance, which is entirely specialized.

Yup, and IQ of my TSE24II and TSE90 is amazing.


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Aug 21, 2010 10:35 |  #15

Marloon wrote in post #10761722 (external link)
I want a real ts look - not one that is shopped. If I don't purchase a TS-E 45mm, how will I ever learn what ts is all about?

I want to be able to control the shift amount to give a feel for my photos.

Are you saying that I should just upgrade my 50 1.4 to the 50L? Or save up for a more specialized lens like the 200f2L. Lol.

If you're going to use the lens for it's intended purpose as well then it's a good idea to get it, but to buy it just to make blurry photos is just silly. A well done fake miniature is nearly indistinguishable from a real one made using a tilt shift lens, and the difference in "realness" certainly isn't worth buying the lens for.

As for your last sentence I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. The "lol" suggests you're trying to take the piss, however getting either of those two lenses instead seems much more logical as you'd at least benefit from them.

ken2000ac wrote in post #10761754 (external link)
Sorry, no. There is more to a TSE lens than trick blurring.

Additionally, a TSE lens may have specialty capability, but it is also a prime manual focus lens, and flexible to be used as such. It's not a fisheye, for instance, which is entirely specialized.

I know there's more to them than just the fake miniature look, I have a shift lens so know what they're capable of, however the guy that started this thread said he wanted one for the selective focus ability. In my opinion that's a waste of the lens, akin to using the 50L at f/8 all the time or the Sigma 250-500mm as just a 250mm f/2.8.


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