Cyber Sync VRS RadioPopper???

So into the strobist world I go ,

My questions being what everyone thinks about either the RadioPopper JrX system (which are suppose to be able to allow high speed sync) and Cyber Sync CSRB+ Trans and Receiver?

Just curious as to what true users reviews are like on each of these products. Thanks

Who said JRx let you do high speed sync? Same with AB CS. None of them do this.

KenVP wrote in post #10763089
So into the strobist world I go ,

My questions being what everyone thinks about either the RadioPopper JrX system (which are suppose to be able to allow high speed sync) and Cyber Sync CSRB+ Trans and Receiver?

Just curious as to what true users reviews are like on each of these products. Thanks

Only PW can do Hypersync. HSS is a canon proprietary function.

In order to get "hypersync" with the Radio Poppers you must use a PCB strobe such as an Alien Bee, White Lightning or Zeus attached to an RP JRX "Studio" receiver via a 4 pin phone cord. You must trigger the JRX Studio receiver with a PX transmitter with the Master flash set to High Speed sync. This allows you to set shutter speeds beyond your cameras max sync speed. You cannot get hypersync, to the best of my knowledge, using just the JRX system alone or with any other strobes other than those from PCB.

agv8or wrote in post #10764802
In order to get "hypersync" with the Radio Poppers you must use a PCB strobe such as an Alien Bee, White Lightning or Zeus attached to an RP JRX "Studio" receiver via a 4 pin phone cord. You must trigger the JRX Studio receiver with a PX transmitter with the Master flash set to High Speed sync. This allows you to set shutter speeds beyond your cameras max sync speed. You cannot get hypersync, to the best of my knowledge, using just the JRX system alone or with any other strobes other than those from PCB.

I could be wrong...but i don't think RP has the capability to do something like PWs hypersync tech. ETTL yes, but not on any of the PCB Strobes. And High speed sync (HSS) is part of the Canon flash system but not on any of those triggers.

jeromego wrote in post #10764947
I could be wrong...but i don't think RP has the capability to do something like PWs hypersync tech. ETTL yes, but not on any of the PCB Strobes. And High speed sync (HSS) is part of the Canon flash system but not on any of those triggers.

Using the combination I mentioned above I can sync with any of my PCB strobes up to 1/8000. I have tried it with AB1600's, AB400, WL2400, WL3200, Zeus 1250, and Zeus 2500 units. I call it hypersync but whether it is hypersync like Pocket Wizards I can not answer that. I thought all hypersyncs were hypersync but what do I know? You have to use highspeed sync on the master flash so that you can get the camera to allow for a shutter speed above max sync speed. That is why you have to use the PX transmitter and JRX "Studio" receiver combination.

It may only be useful for slightly increasing your shutter speeds above max sync speed as effective flash output drops off rapidly as shutter speed increases but that is a given using hypersync. I have just tried it indoors, with the units mentioned above, to see if it would work as Radio Popper claims. Hopefully in another month, when my season slows down, I can find the time to try it in some real world conditions to see if it is useful. It may just end up being a fancy party trick.

Here was one of the videos i watched that showed this. This video is pretty dumb in the start but they will get into the shooting about mid way....

http://www.bing.com …8888194800?q=al​ien%20bees

interesting, i had a feeling i was wrong about this.

so to be able to do this you need the Jrx and the Px and something like the STE-2 or any master flash like the 580EXII, right?

jeromego wrote in post #10767082
interesting, i had a feeling i was wrong about this.

so to be able to do this you need the Jrx and the Px and something like the STE-2 or any master flash like the 580EXII, right?

Yes. You need the JRX "Studio" receiver and a PX transmitter, attached to a Master flash set to "High Speed" sync, to allow faster shutter speeds than max sync speed and to make this work.

I just have not had a lot of time the past year, that I have owned my JRX's, that I have been able to do anything but quickly test them a couple different times and only with PCB strobes.

After watching the video it said something about other studio strobes so I guess I will have to check into that. I was using the 4 pin cable to attach my PCB strobes to my JRX Studio receivers. I guess I will have to try some other strobes just using the regular sync cable.

You don't need no Jrx aor anything else to do the HyperSync you guys are showing. From what I know (no first hand experience) you use on board flash in HSS mode and your strobe with optical slave will let you go past your max sync speed so get something like hypersync.

bobbyz wrote in post #10767297
You don't need no Jrx aor anything else to do the HyperSync you guys are showing. From what I know (no first hand experience) you use on board flash in HSS mode and your strobe with optical slave will let you go past your max sync speed so get something like hypersync.

that's right if you just use a canon speedlight...but what we're discussing here is to be able to trigger the AB with the RP (not optically) past the camera's max sync speed as shown in the video. Using the AB outdoors using optical slave is close to impossible.

Rand, do you have any photos of it in hypersync? If it works then I'm selling my Calumet strobes for Bees. Shooting 1/8000 out in the sun will make some awesome portraits.

Talk about lightning fast response, I emailed RP asking if it'll work and within 5 minutes Brent respond. From RP......

John,

Using a PX transmitter with a JrX receiver on an Alien Bee, some individuals have been able to achieve 1/8000th. It's not a guarantee it will work, but it has been reproduced numerous time on various applications. We have 2 AB 800's at the office and it works on both of ours. However, it has to do with how long the light duration is on your particular AB.

Kind regards,
Brent

My luck though mine wouldn't work.....lol

showtm490 wrote in post #10774788
My luck though mine wouldn't work.....lol

Why? If RP says they should work, something is missing somewhere. And the folks who say it does work, how do you meter? Would love some real world shots.