Digital Video editing for dummies

I recently asked how to decrease the size of original 7d mov file sizes and make them easier to edit in video and then upload them via youtube/vimeo but all the users digressed and talked about video effects and other technical terms which I do not know. Is or are there any link/links that shows the terminology and the how-to of compressing video size to make them easier to upload on a site and also make them easier to edit them?

what software are you using. if you really want to compress and get small file sizes and of course not super worried about some quality loss, just render the output in wmv

I have both Adobe Collection and Vegas Pro

When it comes to video I've found it's difficult to get comprehensible responses. Not talking specifically here on POTN but various video websites, etc.. Appears there is a concerted effort to make things complicated

After some research and a lot of trial and error I have taught myself for the most part. I use Grass Valley's Edius Neo for editing and rendering. However, I don't upload to websites like you wish to do.

I can tell you this for what it is worth. If you have a Canon camera and have installed Zoombrowser located on the CD you can view and render Canon's MOV files. I believe you're limited to avi files as a result, however. I don't know if after using this process if they will be sized for Vimeo, etc...

Also, I've used PhotoDex ProShow Producer for years. This is a video slideshow program that can manage MOV files but with limited editing possibilities. There are lots of options for rendering the show and one is specifically for uploading to vimeo. As an alternative, there is ProShow Gold which is the less expensive option.

I use Adobe premiere elements, it has all sorts of settings for export type after you have edited your video, it will directly export to some online services, give you a file size appropriate for email, web or DVD burning. It is quite intuitive and won't break the bank.

Skrim17 wrote in post #10766934
I use Adobe premiere elements, it has all sorts of settings for export type after you have edited your video, it will directly export to some online services, give you a file size appropriate for email, web or DVD burning. It is quite intuitive and won't break the bank.

and how do you do this?

I click on the icon on my screen and edit my video, then it asks me how I want it exported and I tell it...

I checked your other thread, and saw you already know about cineform...

The other way of doing it in Vegas is to import your movie(s) into the timeline and render them as an .avi file. Make a new Vegas project and use the .avi files to edit, then render to either .mov, .wmv, or mpeg2 to upload to vimeo or YouTube.

The .avi files you create will not be small, they will actually be larger than the original but will run a lot smoother while editing.

Drozz119 wrote in post #10768749
I checked your other thread, and saw you already know about cineform...

The other way of doing it in Vegas is to import your movie(s) into the timeline and render them as an .avi file. Make a new Vegas project and use the .avi files to edit, then render to either .mov, .wmv, or mpeg2 to upload to vimeo or YouTube.

The .avi files you create will not be small, they will actually be larger than the original but will run a lot smoother while editing.

Can you please elaborate on the settings for rendering to AVI on Vegas, So there is as
little quality loss as possible?

Or is it better to start whit Neoscene right from the start?

Thanks.

Drozz119 wrote in post #10768749
I checked your other thread, and saw you already know about cineform...

The other way of doing it in Vegas is to import your movie(s) into the timeline and render them as an .avi file. Make a new Vegas project and use the .avi files to edit, then render to either .mov, .wmv, or mpeg2 to upload to vimeo or YouTube.

The .avi files you create will not be small, they will actually be larger than the original but will run a lot smoother while editing.

even if it is large while I am editing in Vegas, will I have the ability to compress the video once I finish editing?

yes, when your done editing in vegas and you have clicked 'render as' you can change the 'template' which is basically format and you can look a little to the right and see a button to do custom settings where you can change audio settings and bitrate for video and several other settings. there are also codec packs you can download for video to help with compression but they tend to be complicated sometimes and a lot of tweaking is required to get desired results (this is for vegas, not sure about premier)

Wondertwin...Compressi​on can be its own game. I dont think you can simply give a a straight answer. There are far too many things to consider. Here are some things aff the top of my head. Hope it helps.
1) A general rule in video is you get two of three. Good / Fast / Cheap. Pick two you cant have all three. Compression is all math. the cleaner you want it, the bigger the file, the more detail(color and Luminance) the more complex the math has to be to compress it and make it look good.

2) Codecs are key. Some codecs are free. Some you must pay for. Guess which ones are going to be better. Also see above rule.

3)It depends on whats in the frame, lots of details or small details. Example, I do a lot of talking heads, not much background. Mostly white or a nice gradient. They compress pretty small and fairly good quality, Sometimes I have natural backgrounds. For instance the office a person is filmed in. things in the back ground include, Desk, books, windows, computers...all the crap that could be in an office. These tend to be a little bigger. Maybe not as sharp due to all the details that are starting to show up. The worst video I have ever tried to compress. I had a 60 min video that was all water skiing. Shot on a sony cinealta, edited in a linear HD edit suite. BEAUTIFUL. the location was a river here in Texas somewhere. most of the shots were of a single skiier against a background of moving trees and rocks. Holy smokes that looked bad, The compression was trying so hard to keep all the detail from the trees in the background that it ate up all the bandwidth. The trees turned into pixelated squares and tore up so bad the client looked at me like I was nuts. Needles to say I nor the client was very happy. I think he eventualy had to find some place in hollywood with a dedicated computer to get good compression.

For all those terms and thing use this site
http://www.videohelp.c​om/
there are some pretty good explanations on here about what stuff is and the terms used in this industry.
one last thing Experiment as much as you can. this is how youll find your best solutions. Good luck.

PS some good compression programs are: apple compressor / Episode / adobe / and some are built into programs such as final cut pro / after effects / premier