7D vs 60D

btmlinedan wrote in post #10818171
NON CF would kill any thoughts of a 60d for me...after using sd on my 1dmk2n it is MUCH slower than my slowest cf card

It's a pain to go to sd cards but their cheaper, smaller, and probably the future but as is... I have about $1000 of cf cards that isn't going away soon because the 5d2 is my rock.

i don't think you know the difference between a 7D and 60D

As a video camera, the OP is right, there is little difference and the 60D even has a couple advantages. It would be hard to make the same case comparing still features. Honestly, though, I imagine the 60D will hold up pretty well in that department, too.

Whats intresting to me is the following. A lot of people with either a 40D or 50D held out when the 7D was announced. Didnt budge and said we will wait for the 60D. Now the 60D has been announced and what has happened. Very few of those hold outs are saying im buying the 60D. Actually the opposite has occured. Either staying with thier current camera or upgrading to the 7D. Again this has been my personal observation going through the threads on this forum since the 60D announcement. However, to say the 7D has been made obsolete is a practice in the extreme of obsolutes. Do the cameras overlap in some departments? Yes just like when the t2i was announced. Every camera has a market and audience. If the 60D for video makes sense to you then go for it.

enginyr wrote in post #10818291
Magnesium is strong but steel is stronger, oh wait, lets make it out of titanium! Plastic is fine for me since my camera has never seen the floor and if it does, the glass lens will cost much more than body.

Honestly the 5d3 would be my perfect camera with articulating screen, wireless flash, larger screen, better video focusing.

For now we gotta wait!

The 60D frame is aluminum (not steel) covered with a polycarbonate resin plastic. While I understand that is fine for some people I have still not seen anything that makes the 7D obsolete. Sure there are a couple of 60D features that are nice, but obsolescence is a pretty strong term. Now if it were FF, 10fps, dual Digic V, magnesium body, full weather sealing, continuous video AF, and sold for $1,500 then Canon would probably never sell another 7D.

If your a photographer, then this isn't really an upgrade. But in terms of Video, its a game changer for me. When I go from shoulder mount to tripod to slider to ground to steadi cam, it would be great to have the screen pointed dead at me. The question is, how long till the rest of the line-up gets this screen and which model do you think is next?

I still want a 7D. Nothing obsolete about superior AF. I don't think the 60 has the 2 processors or the 8 FPS for sport. You may prefer the 60, but you over stepped using the obsolete word.

guntoter wrote in post #10818658
You may prefer the 60, but you over stepped using the obsolete word.

I think it was clear the OP was talking about video. The 60D may very well become the video SLR of choice instead of the 7D. You aren't going to be using 8fps, 19point AF, or even the 100% VF while shooting video, so what's left as an advantage?

tkbslc wrote in post #10818698
I think it was clear the OP was talking about video. The 60D may very well become the video SLR of choice instead of the 7D. You aren't going to be using 8fps, 19point AF, or even the 100% VF while shooting video, so what's left as an advantage?

Weather sealing is very important to a lot of people, especially us British

You could have the 7D sit in a light rain shower, but I wouldn't do that with a 60D. Weather sealing is one of the best things about the 7D/1D4 for a lot of film-makers it seems.

Canon makes a complete line of HD camcorders--They may be a better option as video is their primary function.

enginyr wrote in post #10818038
I think canon really shot themselves in the foot completely obsoleting the 7d?

That is just absurd.

Perhaps the 60D has some video features you like, and that's fine, but to say the 60D makes the 7D obsolete just proves you are not that interested in still photography.

Sell the 7D and buy a 60D. Let me know what your price is.

rral22 wrote in post #10819071
That is just absurd.

Perhaps the 60D has some video features you like, and that's fine, but to say the 60D makes the 7D obsolete just proves you are not that interested in still photography.

Sell the 7D and buy a 60D. Let me know what your price is.

haha pm me. let's see a high number now that you love it so much

dave kadolph wrote in post #10819054
Canon makes a complete line of HD camcorders--They may be a better option as video is their primary function.

The problem with canon hx a1 is it still uses tape, doesn't do shallow dof, much larger, bad with low light and is double the cost. No good for weddings.

It does have some good stuff but let's not get into that on this thread.

by the way "tape" is mini DV which needs to be play'd back and converted to digital then imported to whatever software. adobe pro or fcp. horribly time consuming.

DSLR's are the future for weddings and that's that.

i would wait to see how accurate the video screen is.
also ... how it performs with direct sun light on it.

i guess we are assuming it will perform the same sensor/electronic - raw image wise ... it will be interesting to see how it takes heat while video is recording.
also how the rolling shutter effect. It will be a different shutter and rated lower ... more for still shooters - but still.


for me - the 100 Vf is gold on the 7D; video and stills.

enginyr wrote in post #10819097
The problem with canon hx a1 is it still uses tape, doesn't do shallow dof, much larger, bad with low light and is double the cost. No good for weddings.

It does have some good stuff but let's not get into that on this thread.

by the way "tape" is mini DV which needs to be play'd back and converted to digital then imported to whatever software. adobe pro or fcp. horribly time consuming.

DSLR's are the future for weddings and that's that.

With the exception of shallow DOF anything in the Vixia line of flash based camcorders will do just fine.

Future yes--today still comes up short IMHO.