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Sep 01, 2010 19:32 |  #1

It probably has been discussed to death, if so, point me there... If not, I ask, why are the long L lenses white...?


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Sep 01, 2010 19:35 |  #2

My understanding is that the "white" finish keeps temperature-sensitive lens elements cooler than a black finish.


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Sep 01, 2010 19:35 |  #3

White reflects more solar energy so the lenses don't heat up as much. HEat can cause issues for lenses.


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Sep 01, 2010 19:36 |  #4

Google is your friend.

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Larger sized L-lenses, such as the 70-200 mm and 100-400 mm zooms and longer focal length primes (300 mm+), usually have an off-white barrel (sometimes referred to as the color "putty") to reduce heat absorption under the sun that may otherwise affect the performance of the lens, as well as to identify Canon's lenses (for example at sporting events)


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Sep 01, 2010 19:39 |  #5

ErnieT wrote in post #10832741 (external link)
as well as to identify Canon's lenses (for example at sporting events)

^ this is all it really is, imo


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Sep 01, 2010 19:39 |  #6

Also note that Canon is not the only company making lenses in this color.


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Sep 01, 2010 19:41 |  #7

bindabinjo wrote in post #10832764 (external link)
^ this is all it really is, imo

Uh huh, and which is why companies like Mamiya make their larger telephotos in white, right? Lots of 645 film shooters on the sidelines at NFL games... :rolleyes:


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Sep 01, 2010 19:42 |  #8

mguffin wrote in post #10832717 (external link)
It probably has been discussed to death, if so, point me there... If not, I ask, why are the long L lenses white...?

Due to thermal expansion. White absorbs far less heat than black. With all the various components in a lens (magnesium, aluminum, glass, plastics) all having different coefficients of thermal expansion, having a lens that remains cooler in direct sunlight means more stable performance and less chance of parts binding. My old Vivitar 120-600 zoom (which indeed was black) used to get so hot in the sun that it was hard to hold. My big "L" zooms remain fairly cool overall.


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Sep 01, 2010 20:26 |  #9

Canon themselves discuss this in a few places... I think in "Lens Work", for example.

They say it's primarily done to reduce thermal expansion.... Which can be a problem with longer telephotos in particular, expecially ones using fluorite elements (which many Canon do).

Canon was not the first to paint their lenses white or a light color, and they aren't the only ones even today. Leica has sold a lot of silver lenses over the years. Tamron has sold gray and olive colored lenses in the past. Many "cat" lenses (aka "mirror" lenses or "catadioptric" lenses) are painted light colors, too, since they are particularly sensitive to the optical formula changing due to heat expansion. I recall Konica 2000mm f11 and 1000mm f8 "cats" were both painted white, way back in the mid-1970s. There have even been some medium format lenses painted white or off-white, from Pentax and Mamiya I think.

But Canon has taken it to a whole new level to make their lenses stand out in a crowd. So I suspect it now has as much to do with marketing as anything. They like to be able to brag about all those white lenses in the hands of pros shooting at major sporting events and relish it when the TV cameras pan and show them. It's probably now become enough of a Canon "trademark" that I suspect other manufacturers would think twice before painting their lenses white, even if they'd benefit from it.


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Sep 01, 2010 20:46 |  #10

amfoto1 wrote in post #10833028 (external link)
...I suspect other manufacturers would think twice before painting their lenses white, even if they'd benefit from it.

Minolta was the first to use white and Sony continues the tradition. Even Nikon has at least one or two white lenses in the lineup.


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Sep 01, 2010 20:46 |  #11

krb wrote in post #10832773 (external link)
Uh huh, and which is why companies like Mamiya make their larger telephotos in white, right? Lots of 645 film shooters on the sidelines at NFL games... :rolleyes:

Uh huh, smack dab in tha middle, brother sir!


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Sep 01, 2010 21:44 |  #12

Temperature. Sometimes when outside shooting under sunlight the black lenses and bodies really get hot to the touch. I can imagine it would change the parameters of the glass in the larger lenses by a noticeable amount in right conditions.

It's also white cause it looks cool :p


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Sep 01, 2010 22:45 as a reply to  @ SiaoP's post |  #13

Besides reflecting light, it's good marketing. When you look at a white lens, you know it's Canon.


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Sep 01, 2010 22:58 |  #14

xcel730 wrote in post #10834000 (external link)
When you look at a white lens, you know it's Canon.

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Sep 01, 2010 23:07 |  #15

krb wrote in post #10832765 (external link)
Also note that Canon is not the only company making lenses in this color.

Negative.
Pentax wants to be cool too.

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