The 40th TPBM Random Chat and Zane Recommitment Thread

monkeygirl wrote in post #10926708
Thanks Deb. How is your day going?

Permagrin wrote in post #10929324
lol.
I'm not really adhd. I just have the attention span of someone who is


you feeling better tonight?

Ya I feel ok , just keeping the meds going ..lol for headaches ,body aches ,wish I had something for energy and my attention span

Skrim17 wrote in post #10929327
Holy CARP!! I thought my kid was loud and easily distracted, its like a little white mouse hopped up on sugar has come over...

I feel for ya Crissa

OMG!

Skrim17 wrote in post #10929371
OMG!

Huh? Wha HOPPEN?

sorry Crissa. Hope the boys wind down soon.

Lisa - could it be that the web program happens to be boring?

Seriously, this kid is WIRED!! In a way tho it makes me feel so much better about mine

monkeygirl wrote in post #10929419
sorry Crissa. Hope the boys wind down soon.

Lisa - could it be that the web program happens to be boring?

lol. I was just talking to Dan about that. RS writes so well. But he rambles when he podcasts (or webinars). So much that he took an hour to say could have taken 20min. Plus he talked more about doing the original hdr shots than showcasing the product. It was interesting but a bit tedious. Still that program looks cool.

Skrim17 wrote in post #10929428
Seriously, this kid is WIRED!! In a way tho it makes me feel so much better about mine

I was just about to disclaim all responsibility for whatever caused the omg but now I don't need to.

LOL!!

You know, I don't know a parent who hasn't thought that. Or even a fur parent.

::whew:: his mom just picked him up...percocett, take me away!!

we had passes to the base of the statue instead of just going to the island. There were a lot of steps, tough for most of my guys but they did it and I am so proud of them.

I can't tell you how annoyed I got at the people around us with no clue, and the complainers who were annoyed that we were walking/climbing the stairs so slowly.

But my guys RULE!!

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Skrim17 wrote in post #10929528
we had passes to the base of the statue instead of just going to the island. There were a lot of steps, tough for most of my guys but they did it and I am so proud of them.

I can't tell you how annoyed I got at the people around us with no clue, and the complainers who were annoyed that we were walking/climbing the stairs so slowly.

But my guys RULE!!

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Yay for your guys ! People can be rude , given most dont pay enough attention to even see that anythings going on that could be difficult .

thomascanty wrote in post #10925265
Hmmmm... I didn't know B&H sold cats. What category did you find that under?

*snicker*

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #10925319
It was a special order purrrrrrrchase...

Bwahahahahahahahahahah​ahaha

Permagrin wrote in post #10927873
I posted this on my FB business page but I thought I'd post it here too. First, I want to say though that I follow lots of photogs on FB and found myself perusing the new posts this morning and just frustrated at some of the things I saw...so that's what inspired this, not anything here.



Today I was viewing some photographs around the net. I found myself really cringing at some things I was seeing.

People want to be creative, to stand out in their field, but instead of learning how to be creative, they just do things and then get irritated when people might suggest how to do them better. Sadly, some assume they are so good, because they have a lot of "followers" on facebook or twitter, that they never grow in skill.

So I'm offering some suggestions on common mistakes in the creativity process...and what to avoid.

Angles. GAH! Unless an angle will enhance a photo, stop making me lean to figure out what you are saying with your shot. Don't angle just because you think it's creative, it's not. A wall looks like it's falling on your subject, it's not creative. A person looks like they are about to fall off the photo, it's not creative. Use an angle creatively or don't use it.

Vignettes. A gentle vignette can gracefully enhance a photo, leading the viewer's eye to your subject OR it can blatantly intrude. Over vignetting says "I did not achieve what I wanted in the shot so I'm blocking your vision." Like it or not, that's what it says. It's abrupt and it truncates a photo rather than enhances it. Gently guide the viewer, it makes a world of difference.

Grunge. Where does grunge belong? ASK yourself this BEFORE you put it on a bride. Or skin where it mottles and freaks people out. GRUNGE has it's place...lets let it stay there.

GLOW. Glow has it's place too. It can be a very nice tool. An enhancing tool. SOMETIMES. Again, ask yourself "does this fit here?" Are you hiding something (noise, poor focus, bad exposure etc) with it? Then no, it doesn't fit. Bin the shot or use noise reduction. Are you staying in keeping with the "feel" of the photo by using glow? Come on, factory shots aren't "angelic". Glow something gently and then step back and look at it like someone else viewing your shot. Glow and unglow...is there a wild difference? Ask yourself, should there be a wild difference? Enhance your photo but don't electrocute it.

HDR. Done well, hdr is beautiful. Done poorly, HDR is an offense to the senses. Sadly, 99.9% of hdr on the market is done poorly. Over saturated, over contrasty...you've turned your photo into a comic. If you want a comic, fine. You've achieved your goal. If you didn't...go back, look again at the shot and figure out WHAT you want to say before you say it...

Contrast. Okay so you didn't hdr your shot. Don't kill it with over-contrast either. Again, most viewers don't want to be assaulted by the the photos they view. If you are a shock artist, then maybe go ahead...but be ready for the fact that 80-90% of the viewers aren't going to enjoy this interpretation.

and finally my biggest pet peeve of all:
SMOOTH SKIN and GLOWING EYEBALLS. Skin has texture people. It does. And eyeballs ARE NOT ALL WHITE! Glamour shots of zombie, Barbie-like women are freaky. They aren't beautiful, they are scary. And most importantly, they aren't real...the person you see isn't a person you'll ever meet. And even more importantly it says that you feel your client needs major help to be beautiful. Let's not perpetuate this false notion that women aren't beautiful if they aren't "perfect". It's bad enough when Hollywood does it. A gentle hand here can be an amazing thing. So I say, NO MORE ZOMBIE BARBIES!

Does all this mean don't be creative? No. There are lots of photography styles out there that will be hot today and embarrassing in a few years. But there is something every photographer in this digital age should ask themselves..."does this enhance my photo OR detract"? Photographers, like any other artist, want people to love their work. You are no different. So try to examine your photos subjectively.

Try to get it right in camera. No processing will fix a mis-focus. No processing will make a soft shot look good. Badly exposed photos are difficult to fix well...so get it right first and then creative processing will be an option of choice, not a necessity.

Then after you basic edits are done, before you settle on anything else, ask yourself, does this make my photo better? Click back and forth from the original to the edit to gain objectivity. Even leave your computer and come back later...you'd be amazed at how time away can sober that over-processing obsession that hits when you are in the midst of "creating".

Ultimately, never stop being objective. Being teachable is the key to growth. In any field.

I love this! I love that you do say all of these things DO have a place in photography... but that the techniques themselves should be used at the right time with the right subject.... and the techniques are not right for every shot.

Permagrin wrote in post #10928192
and fwiw, I could post examples of almost all of those comments from my own gallery, embarrassingly enough...I'm the queen of trial and error.

But that is how we learn... through trial and error!

short5 wrote in post #10928790
Diane I did not comment due to fog and nothing constructive to add. I figured real photographers would be more help than my youtube links. The last two shots don't look like your best work. Your other shots from earlier are nice but I would agree with Jim on the bra strap. While I love underwear showing on girls, I have noticed your boudoir style showing through more and more in your portraits. It is a nice style for a different setting. I am hardly a prude but I sort of like a more conservative pretty look for the senior stuff that highlights their hobbies and about them rather than tries to make them look sexier than the other girl.

I don't think this is necessarily Diane... that's how these girls dress... I"m at least glad that the bra strap was the same COLOR as the cami strap.... I've seen straps like that that totally don't match... I've seen MUCH worse...

I logged on earlier, but didn't have time to reply.......something about cheap shots.


I'll take a double, or is happy hour over?

Belmondo wrote in post #10929636
I logged on earlier, but didn't have time to reply.......something about cheap shots.


I'll take a double, or is happy hour over?

oooh good idea...belly up to the bar boys, the shots are on Dan.

*pours the Chief a double white grape juice*
*pours self a double agave*

Permagrin wrote in post #10929644
oooh good idea...belly up to the bar boys, the shots are on Dan.

*pours the Chief a double white grape juice*
*pours self a double agave*

Pour me a double Patron shot! YUM!!!!