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Sep 15, 2010 05:45 |  #76

An Ai tab around lens mount... really...? That's so cool. And AF screwdriver. So basically you can use most of the glass made since 1959 (if it has been Ai modified) and have metering too.

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This inconspicuous tab of black plastic is an Ai indexing tab, and is one of the small physical differences between the D7000 and D90 which distinguish the former as a definitively 'high-end' model. This tab allows aperture control with manual focus lenses of the Ai specification or later. Aperture data for up to 9 such lenses can be programmed into the D7000.

This body is such a high step up from D90 in all aspects. I wouldn't even bother mentioning them in same sentence... :D


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Sep 15, 2010 05:55 |  #77

Ihmemies wrote in post #10912517 (external link)
This body is such a high step up from D90 in all aspects. I wouldn't even bother mentioning them in same sentence... :D

I agree...I've totally been begging for Ai compatability in a smaller body and now its here...finally, Nikon made a camera you can't help but love!


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Sep 15, 2010 06:04 |  #78

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D7000 looks to easily be $100 better than 60D, real world performance pending, of course.

How so? I've got 100% VF, AF micro-adjust, and slightly better AF sensor (assuming you even need it for sports/wildlife) as a + for Nikon, while Canon has 720/60P (which I wish the nikon had), access to more modern lenses (a fair knock on nikon, I think) and its $100 cheaper. I'd say that's about even. I was surprised that Canon released the 60D. I would think the only people that should be upset are the 7D owners that wanted a nice bright prism, but really didn't want to pay mega-bucks for a lot of features they may/may-not use. I was underwhelmed by the 7D initially. The 60D is an improvement in offering most the features, while keeping the price WAY down.


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Sep 15, 2010 06:08 as a reply to  @ post 10911388 |  #79

in the knife fight between the 60D and D7000, nikon brought a rocket launcher. damn, canon isn't even trying when you compare the specs of the two. didn't they not see this coming?




  
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Sep 15, 2010 06:31 |  #80

At least Nikon's new flash was wtf, being $300+ and not including a pc jack. But, come on Canon, you have to have something up your sleeve.

Nikon's put out 9 new lenses this year, many of which are drool worthy. Except for the 70-200 II, not much new glass coming out of Canon's camp has me reaching for my wallet.


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Sep 15, 2010 06:43 as a reply to  @ wdwpsu's post |  #81

We will have to wait and see for the d300s successors. With the pressure from D7000, I still don't know how could nikon set apart the d300s and d90 successors. Almost every feature from d300s is adapted to d7000, it felt like it is the d300s successor


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Sep 15, 2010 07:30 |  #82

D7000 looks good but I not sure about the ergonomics of the controls on Nikon bodies, but I'm sure any one would get used to it. 100% viewfinder is nice as is the magnesium alloy body, but some things are not as good as they first seem. Take the 39 point AF, I think 39 points is a bit much on a crop sensor camera but that's just me, also only 9 points are cross type. 60D only has 9 AF points and they are all cross type so in terms of cross AF points they are the same.

Any way does any one have an idea as to how long to 50D will remain? I had a play with one the other day and at £675 I quite fancy one.


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Sep 15, 2010 07:47 |  #83

thenextguy wrote in post #10911239 (external link)
Canon should be embarrassed for releasing the 60D so close to this camera.

After reading the description, I thought the same thing. This is the camera that the 60D should have been.


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Sep 15, 2010 08:37 |  #84

AngryCorgi wrote in post #10912570 (external link)
access to more modern lenses (a fair knock on nikon, I think)

New is not always better :D also new canon lenses are priced quite high. :(


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Sep 15, 2010 09:18 |  #85

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New is not always better :D also new canon lenses are priced quite high. :(

If new canon lenses are quite high, then new nikon lenses are downright unobtainable...over $2k for a 35/1.4 AF-S?? Gimme a break. :rolleyes:


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Sep 15, 2010 09:27 as a reply to  @ AngryCorgi's post |  #86

True Nikon lenses are expensive. Canon used to be cheaper but that looks like about to change (new lenses are more expensive).


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Sep 15, 2010 10:00 |  #87

AngryCorgi wrote in post #10912570 (external link)
How so? I've got 100% VF, AF micro-adjust, and slightly better AF sensor (assuming you even need it for sports/wildlife) as a + for Nikon, while Canon has 720/60P (which I wish the nikon had), access to more modern lenses (a fair knock on nikon, I think) and its $100 cheaper. I'd say that's about even. I was surprised that Canon released the 60D. I would think the only people that should be upset are the 7D owners that wanted a nice bright prism, but really didn't want to pay mega-bucks for a lot of features they may/may-not use. I was underwhelmed by the 7D initially. The 60D is an improvement in offering most the features, while keeping the price WAY down.

I think there is definitely a $100-200 difference, but I agree it is not the slaying that everyone is making it out to be. It really just seems like Nikon was gunning for the 50D while Canon was gunning for the D90 and now they traded places in this segment.

IN the real world the advantages are mainly magnesium body and dual card slots. On paper the 39 AF points looks cool, but remember only 9 of them are cross, just like Canon. The 7D looks bad with 19 AF points against the D300s' 51 AF points, too, but in the real world they perform about the same. And 5.3 vs 6fps you'd need special equipment to measure the difference.

This definitely does seem to have just enough of the extra pro features to be what most people wanted the 60D to be, though.


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Sep 15, 2010 10:10 |  #88

The most incredible part of the D7000 is a feature that really isn't a plus or minus in comparison to canon...a light Nikon FINALLY gets the dang Ai ring...how many years of begging did this take?!?


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Sep 15, 2010 10:31 |  #89

AngryCorgi wrote in post #10913341 (external link)
If new canon lenses are quite high, then new nikon lenses are downright unobtainable...over $2k for a 35/1.4 AF-S?? Gimme a break. :rolleyes:

Not sure where you're getting that figure. DPR says £1699.99, which will probably mean about $1700 in the States. Still a bundle more than the 35L, but you can be sure the 35L Mark II will come in at about the same price.




  
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Sep 15, 2010 10:43 |  #90

AngryCorgi wrote in post #10912570 (external link)
How so? I've got 100% VF, AF micro-adjust, and slightly better AF sensor (assuming you even need it for sports/wildlife) as a + for Nikon, while Canon has 720/60P (which I wish the nikon had), access to more modern lenses (a fair knock on nikon, I think) and its $100 cheaper. I'd say that's about even.

I'm also seeing stronger chassis, weather sealing, dual SD card slots. When you add up all the pluses for the D7000, for a mere $100 more it's a distinctly more "pro spec" camera than the 60D.

Is Nikon lacking in the lens department? The only thing I was aware of where Canon had a clear advantage was f/4 zooms and not-super-tele primes, and Nikon have chipped away at both advantages lately.

I was surprised that Canon released the 60D. I would think the only people that should be upset are the 7D owners that wanted a nice bright prism, but really didn't want to pay mega-bucks for a lot of features they may/may-not use. I was underwhelmed by the 7D initially. The 60D is an improvement in offering most the features, while keeping the price WAY down.

Also upset are people wanting a 50D-style camera with updated 2010 specs but didn't want to stretch into a 7D. You know, kind of like the D7000 but with an EOS mount :)

I was very impressed with the 7D when it launched. The only thing I think it needs at this point to be a real pro body is dual card slots, so it's most of the way there to the APS-C pro body that Canon had needed in their lineup for a long time. Just goes to show: different strokes.




  
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