I love these shots, post processing using CS5.
(ps. it was very bright that day...tried to darken these a little)
PerfectTan Senior Member 440 posts Joined Aug 2010 Location: Washington More info | Sep 05, 2010 00:49 | #1 I love these shots, post processing using CS5. My Gear: Do you really want to know?
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ssim POTN Landscape & Cityscape Photographer 2005 10,884 posts Likes: 6 Joined Apr 2003 Location: southern Alberta, Canada More info | Sep 05, 2010 02:20 | #2 It is hard to get a good balance when you have such as wide area between the highlights and the shadows. You have some blown highlights that you will never get any detail back in but they seem to be minimal and don't take away too much from the image. My life is like one big RAW file....way too much post processing needed.
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tzalman Fatal attraction. 13,497 posts Likes: 213 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel More info | Sep 05, 2010 03:36 | #3 In any situation like this you have to make a very important decision. You can't possibly expose both the bright sunny bits and the shaded areas correctly. So you have to decide which part will be incorrectly exposed. The best decision is almost always to protect the highlights, because once highlights are overexposed they are gone forever. A clipped (burned out) highlight will have the RGB values 255/255/255 which is featureless white. If you try to darken it you just get featureless grey, like the columns in the top photo which are now 217/217/217 and pretty ugly. Underexposed shady areas, however, still have detail in them and quite a bit can be done to lighten them to reveal that detail. Still, it does come at a price because you are pushing the limits of the camera's abilities. The price is noise, but noise can be lessened in editing. An additional price can be posterizing of the shadow tones (abrupt, instead of smooth, transitions between tones). This can be lessened if the editing is done on a RAW file rather than a jpg, and in general this sort of photo will always be better in RAW because RAW gives you an additional one stop of tonal range in the highlights. This means that if you expose so the highlights are just below clipping, all the other parts of the photo will receive an extra stop of exposure as well, which will make the brightening of the shadows easier. Elie / אלי
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Sep 05, 2010 08:33 | #4 ssim wrote in post #10852524 I would have done anything differently it would have been to be more towards the center of the hallway to get a more centered vanishing perspective. You might have better luck on getting opinions on this shot if you posted in the critique forum. Thanks Sheldon, I did try to centered the subject for the vanishing perspective, but it doesn't have the illusion of depth I was looking for in comparison to stand either right or left to captured the subject. Granted the columns seems to be wide enough apart in the second picture. When centered, they look like a wall with no separation. The bricks are actually light yellow(almost white) color. If you look at the second picture(above the windows), they are same color(except perhaps 2x lighter). tzalman wrote in post #10852746 This can be lessened if the editing is done on a RAW file rather than a jpg, and in general this sort of photo will always be better in RAW because RAW gives you an additional one stop of tonal range in the highlights. This means that if you expose so the highlights are just below clipping, all the other parts of the photo will receive an extra stop of exposure as well, which will make the brightening of the shadows easier. The compositions and subjects are lovely, but the overexposure makes them missed opportunities. Still, every missed shot is a chance to learn. Thanks Elie for a very in depth review. I did shoot these in RAW as well, and as stated, the harsh lighting didn't help the subject. The original images are not too bad, but I was experimenting with HDR and perhaps it was a little far fetched. My Gear: Do you really want to know?
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ChasP505 "brain damaged old guy" 5,566 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2006 Location: New Mexico, USA More info | Sep 05, 2010 10:35 | #5 PerfectTan wrote in post #10853292 ...The original images are not too bad, but I was experimenting with HDR and perhaps it was a little far fetched. ...How can we ask MOD to move this thread to Critique Corner? That was going to MY guess... HDR. If you want, you can post a link to the raw file so we can see what's possible. Chas P
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Sep 05, 2010 11:19 | #6 PerfectTan wrote in post #10853292 ps. How can we ask MOD to move this thread to Critique Corner? Use the report button.
Moved it ![]() "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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thomastaesu Member 68 posts Joined Jan 2012 More info | For the second picture, if you waited a little bit more for the monk to walk farther, I think the picture would feel more interesting. Just my thought.
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