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Sep 05, 2010 09:33 |  #1

For some reason I love the snapshot below. However, you can clearly see that the focus is off (way too close). I am wondering if there is any good combination of tricks (applicable by a newbie and fotoshop elements) to get the woman in focus? I have the raw file...


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Sep 05, 2010 10:03 |  #2

No.

You could blur the in focus bit and sharpen the heck out of the woman, but it still wouldn't be good IMO.


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Sep 05, 2010 10:18 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #3

Out of focus is out of focus. I wouldn't even try to sharpen her per se, because you're going get visible artifacts, but make a layer mask and paint on some contrast to give the illusion of sharpness.


Edit: Just realized you didn't have Image Editing OK enabled... sorry.


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Sep 05, 2010 10:21 |  #4

You can do a couple of things - sharpen the image and then paint in that sharpening to define the woman more clearly. Also, burn in the image and then dodge the area around and including the woman, again to draw attention and focus to her.

I played around with you JPEG - If you want to see what I did, I'd be happy to work on the RAW file and post the result. What software do you use, so I don't use a process to which you may not have access?

If you don;t want to post a link to the RAW file here, I'll PM you my email.

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Sep 14, 2010 00:04 as a reply to  @ kirkt's post |  #5

You could try this http://graphicreporter​.com …photoshop_outof​focus.html (external link)


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Sep 14, 2010 00:05 |  #6

If you miss the focus on a picture, there really isn't much you can do. There are just details you can't get back.




  
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Sep 14, 2010 04:31 |  #7

LiberationFrequency wrote in post #10904482 (external link)
If you miss the focus on a picture, there really isn't much you can do. There are just details you can't get back.

Not strictly true. The details are there, just blurred - i.e. spread out over too many pixels. Deconvolution sharpening can calculate and subtract the blur, just like "Enhance that," on CSI.

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Sep 14, 2010 12:35 |  #8

I mean yeah, I can do a masked, multi-layer sharpening process in my best attempt to get the girl into focus and yes, you can get it back somewhat... I was just saying that it will never truly represent what a picture could be if you actually nailed the focus. Im all for going into photoshop and getting back what you can, I just know that after 6 years of photoshop... there's stuff you can't really do as well as others.

I like that program you linked - Do they have one that handles raw files? Im sure you could recover a lot more if it could handle raw...




  
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Sep 14, 2010 12:55 as a reply to  @ LiberationFrequency's post |  #9

This was what I did earlier, but you didn't have Image Editing OK enabled... I didn't sharpen per se, but stepped up the contrast . What is sharpening anyway, except increasing the contrast between lighter and darker adjacent edges.


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Sep 14, 2010 13:00 |  #10

tzalman wrote in post #10905243 (external link)
Deconvolution sharpening can calculate and subtract the blur, just like "Enhance that," on CSI.

Isn't it amazing what they can get out of their enhancement tool on that show?! :D


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Sep 14, 2010 18:06 |  #11

Blur the whole thing and grayscale it. Or maybe sepia. You know, artsy it up. Lol.


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Sep 14, 2010 19:53 |  #12

ChasP505 wrote in post #10907426 (external link)
This was what I did earlier, but you didn't have Image Editing OK enabled... I didn't sharpen per se, but stepped up the contrast . What is sharpening anyway, except increasing the contrast between lighter and darker adjacent edges.

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Looks way better than the Focus Magic version. The latter just looks like cranking up the contrast.


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Sep 15, 2010 06:26 |  #13

Having some spare time this morning, I got to wondering about LR3 sharpening, which is said to be deconvolution when the Detail slider is all the way up to 100, and how it compares to Focus Magic. In the two versions below the first is with Detail panel settings 40/3/100/0 and Clarity at 30. The second is with the same plus Local Adjustment Brush on the girl with Exposure, Contrast, Clarity, and Sharpness all at +50.


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Sep 15, 2010 09:35 |  #14

bohdank wrote in post #10909909 (external link)
Looks way better than the Focus Magic version. The latter just looks like cranking up the contrast.

I actually have Focus Magic and used it on thousands of real estate photos over the past few years, but I used a NIK filter on this photo. I used the Tonal Contrast filter. I painted it heavily on the woman and the driveway area, lightly on the house, lawn, garden, and trees.

As for sharpening, when I just want light sharpening, I've been using the NIK sharpening app, Raw PreSharpening, with the strength dialed back lower than the default level. NIK filter work with layer masks, so it's easy to paint the effect just where you need it.


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Sep 15, 2010 14:27 |  #15

tzalman wrote in post #10905243 (external link)
Not strictly true. The details are there, just blurred - i.e. spread out over too many pixels. Deconvolution sharpening can calculate and subtract the blur, just like "Enhance that," on CSI.

Yeah, but that only can take you so far in my experience...


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