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Aug 19, 2005 03:29 |  #16

With the newer versions of photoshop, the 10% increment thing isn't needed as it does just as good a job straight off.

There was a comparison of resizing tools in the BJP magazine a few weeks back which found that CS2 did a good enough job.


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Aug 19, 2005 20:04 |  #17

Assuming you're in a location where you control the light source, the pace etc. and not chasing them all over the place. The best 2' X 3' picture you'll get for the least cost is not from a 1Ds and Epson printer but a 4X5 view camera and traditional film and paper.

Digital technology has its benefits over film. But doesn't make it right for every occassion.




  
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Aug 20, 2005 22:08 |  #18

I agree wilflee,,, I was thinking of buying the Eos 1D (17Mp) but I think a 4x5 film camera will give me better quality for portraits like these. Which medium format camera is the best?


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Aug 21, 2005 15:10 as a reply to  @ tsmakrakis's post |  #19

Its entirely possible to create huge prints at very good quality.

Heres something i created not too long ago of a powershot G6. !!!!

https://photography-on-the.net …=59638&highligh​t=panorama


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Aug 22, 2005 10:55 |  #20

I have tested GF against Photoshop a few times and I find that it depends on the shot but usually Photoshop is King. no need to buy the GF. I have also found that the upsize in 10% increments is hardly any better than going all at once do a test for yourself and compare I think you'll agree.




  
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Aug 22, 2005 17:19 |  #21

If you want ultimate detail, doubling the number of pixels by going to the 1DsMk2 only increases resolution by a factor of 1.4x (the square root of 2). If you wanted to double the resolution, you would need to increase pixel count by 4 since each pixel would have to be replaced by 2 pixels horizontal and 2 pixels vertical. For really big enlargements there is no way that a 1DsMK2 can come any where close to a 4x5 inch camera.

However, for portraits, most people aren't interested in seeing the detail of every little flaw in their complexion. An extrapolated print from either a 20D or 1DsMK2 might produce all the detail they want to see. Both would certainly have more detail than a classic oil painting that many people are happy with.

For extrapolating I don't use either Genuine Fractals or PhotoShop bicubic. I have found I get better results with Qimage using their Pyramid method. This method uses a lot of computer processing, so be prepared to wait while your computer crunches the numbers.




  
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Aug 23, 2005 01:58 |  #22

tsmakrakis wrote:
A client requested a family portrait on location and a 24''x36'' print of the portrait.

Am I goign to get a nice/sharp result with a RAW file from my 20D or do I need a higher resolution camera like the 1D (16.7MP)?

Note: 7 People in the portrait and I will use a tamron 28-75mm F2.8) lens.

What do you guys think?
Also how much would you charge just for the print?
Is a printer like EPSON 7800 good enough for that kind of print or are there labs that offer better quality?

Thanks very much.

A different perspective you may like to consider. If you are going to print a print this large, then you are going to want to project as high a quality image onto the sensor of the 20D as you can. I have no experience of the lens you mention, but is it up to the job that you are going to ask of it? You may wish to consider, for this special assignment, using a prime.
Hope this hasn't muddied the waters too much.
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Aug 23, 2005 21:36 |  #23

Is prime much better than a good zoom L?


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Aug 24, 2005 16:09 |  #24

From photozone, http://www.photozone.d​e (external link) (Reviews, user performance surveys, EOS lenses).

Lens Optical verdict (max 5)
Canon EF 24-70L f2.8 usm 4.26
Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 usm 4.69
Canon EF 70-200 f4 usm 4.59
Tamron AF 28-75 f2.8 SP XR Di 3.43
Canon EF 50 f1.4 usm 4.37
Canon 50 f1.8 II 3.85
Canon 85 f1.8 usm 4.51

Better? that's up to you to decide, but it seems that some reasonably priced primes can perform as well as or better than "L" zooms which are much more expensive.
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Aug 24, 2005 18:49 as a reply to  @ Nabil-A's post |  #25

Nabil-A wrote:
Its entirely possible to create huge prints at very good quality.

Heres something i created not too long ago of a powershot G6. !!!!

https://photography-on-the.net …=59638&highligh​t=panorama



Hi there.. I'm total newb.. in fact i haven't even got my camera shipped to me yet but this was the exact pic I was thinking of taking once my 350D arrives.. Comes out great.. Actually I was going to take the pic from the other side of the river.. Or wait for the Casino flames going on.. well done on the pic!


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