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Canon 70-200 order of sharpness?

 
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Sep 07, 2010 18:09 |  #31

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I've had the pleasure of owning all of these at one point or another, and currently own the f/4 IS and the f/2.8 IS II. I'd put them in this order:

70-200 2.8 IS II
70-200 4.0 IS
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70-200 2.8 NonIS
70-200 2.8 IS

I think the bottom 3 are really splitting hairs. The f/2.8L IS II and the f/4 IS are clearly the top 2. From my experience I'd say the old f/2.8 IS is probably the worst wide open.

You can see in these comparison crops that the regular f/4 does well against the old f/2.8 IS.

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I'm going to agree with this assessment. I've used all the different versions of the 70-200 except for the F4 non IS.

The 2.8 IS is probably the most overrated in terms of sharpness wide open. I've tried 4 copies of this lens and the version 2 of this lens is leaps and bounds better in every single way except for the slight increase in weight and the massive increase in price.

The F4 IS is probably the most reasonable in terms of weight, price, and quality. Its a great lens.


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Sep 07, 2010 18:11 |  #32

I have the F4 non IS and i love it. Its plenty sharp. If you need more sharpening just do it in PP.


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Sep 07, 2010 18:19 |  #33

TT-00 wrote in post #10867204 (external link)
So with this I should keep my F4 non IS and forget about the 2.8 IS I ....:)

Only reason to upgrade would be if you needed that 2.8 for faster speed and also you need the IS for additional stop or two (and those are important consideration!). But the image quality gain would be basically a wash.




  
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Sep 07, 2010 18:22 |  #34

TT-00 wrote in post #10867204 (external link)
So with this I should keep my F4 non IS and forget about the 2.8 IS I ....:)

Well... forget about the f/2.8 non-IS anyhow :) There's really no downplaying the worth of IS, especially when it comes to lowlight situations. That said, the 2.8 IS mk I is overpriced for the IQ it provides!! Disappointing does not begin to describe it.


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Sep 07, 2010 18:27 |  #35

I'm glad this thread was able to answer what many have wanted to know or didn't know and hopefully has given the uninformed or misinformed a better idea of these lenses.

I for one, will be investing in the f4 IS very soon.

Thanks everyone!!




  
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Sep 07, 2010 18:52 |  #36

Lots of comments and list making but I only see a few that have actually owned or used all of the lenses. How can the rest of you say one way or the other that may make the OP buy something he won't like?

BTW, I am perfectly happy with the 70-200 f/2.8L IS. I wish I had a shutter count on it. It would be at least a 5 figure number.


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Sep 07, 2010 19:18 as a reply to  @ post 10867204 |  #37

I would bet...

I would bet that if you viewed 25 images shot under normal conditions (not a pixel peeper test) five from each of the 70-200mm cousins, that you would not get a passing grade in selecting which images were shot with which lens.

I agree that IS in a lens of this focal length is quite important.

BTW: I love my f/4L IS lens.


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Sep 07, 2010 20:59 |  #38

timnosenzo wrote in post #10864695 (external link)
I've had the pleasure of owning all of these at one point or another, and currently own the f/4 IS and the f/2.8 IS II. I'd put them in this order:

70-200 2.8 IS II
70-200 4.0 IS
70-200 4.0
70-200 2.8 NonIS
70-200 2.8 IS

I think the bottom 3 are really splitting hairs. The f/2.8L IS II and the f/4 IS are clearly the top 2. From my experience I'd say the old f/2.8 IS is probably the worst wide open.

That would be my ranking having used them all.




  
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Sep 07, 2010 22:01 |  #39

RPCrowe wrote in post #10867708 (external link)
I would bet that if you viewed 25 images shot under normal conditions (not a pixel peeper test) five from each of the 70-200mm cousins, that you would not get a passing grade in selecting which images were shot with which lens.

I agree that IS in a lens of this focal length is quite important.

BTW: I love my f/4L IS lens.

True, but you buy the faster lenses with IS so you have an advantage when the not so normal condition arrises, don't you think?

Otherwise we'd all be shooting with the cheapest F4.0 Non IS.




  
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Sep 07, 2010 22:08 |  #40

2.8 IS II
4.0 IS / Magic Drainpipe :lol:
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Sep 07, 2010 22:18 |  #41

f4 is
f4 non IS
2.8 is
2.8 non is




  
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Sep 07, 2010 22:49 |  #42

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2.8 IS ii
f4 is
2.8 is
f4 non IS
2.8 non is

^ This.


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Sep 08, 2010 11:16 |  #43

Wow! I wonder if the low rating of the 2.8IS would be the same if the Mk2 didn't exist?


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Sep 08, 2010 11:23 |  #44

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Can anyone comment on the general sharpness/IQ of the f4 non IS, thinking about picking one up in a few months as they are only ~$700, the f4 IS adds ~$600 which basically makes it a no-go.

Is it an awesome zoom for that price?

Is a tripod necessary for a lot of shots with a non IS?

I was looking for better IQ compare to non L lens and F4 non-IS was fitting into the budget and porpoise of this lens for my needs. And I’m not using it with tripod at all.

If you going to shot landscapes with polarized and ND filters or point it to the moon – you would need the tripod. Even 2.8 IS would need it at least for landscapes.
If you are going to use it for indoor head and shoulders portraits you would need external flash and it eliminates tripod.
If you are going to use it to capture some nice moments at outdoors as enthusiast photographer you would realize what best pictures would be taken at sunny day or golden hour. But even at dull day you could still get fast exposure which will eliminate needs for tripod. Just bump ISO from 100 to 200 or even 400.

IS at F4 would help for panning shots it would works better compare to tripod and IS at 2.8 is perfect if you need to take pictures in low light where again the tripod would be to much hassle.


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Sep 08, 2010 17:39 |  #45

MNGUYEN wrote in post #10871820 (external link)
Wow! I wonder if the low rating of the 2.8IS would be the same if the Mk2 didn't exist?

same, no? :confused:


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