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clients wants to bring police officer companion to boudoir shoot

 
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Sep 15, 2010 10:08 |  #61

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The chances of gunplay are much less than the chances of a physical assault not involving guns.

Did you misunderstand the phrase "worst case?"

Either she trusts the photographer or not. Period. And if she doesn't trust him then she shouldn't be talking to him and shouldn't be going to a shoot with him. Escorted or solo. Clothed or nude. Whatever. If the "photographer" really is the type of person who would attack a woman then neither an escort nor some pieces of fabric concealing her naughty bits are going to stop him. They might make him take other measures, like giving roofies to both her and the escort, or it might mean he brings along 2 "assistants" to handle the escort, or it might make him wait till the next day when the escort is gone and she's on her way to work in the morning, or any number of other things.


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Sep 15, 2010 23:44 |  #62

Just found this discussion. I have an idea. Maybe the OP can have a testing photoshoot for that model for something like senior pictures in a place the OP feels comfortable, e.g., a park with people around. After that, some trust could be built up. And the OP may evaluate better whether to go along with the boudoir pictures.This seems better than declining her request, making her suspicious.

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Sep 16, 2010 07:01 |  #63

krb wrote in post #10913652 (external link)
Did you misunderstand the phrase "worst case?"

Either she trusts the photographer or not. Period.

Heck, I don't even trust clients that absolutely. As I said, I would not even do a boudoir session with a woman by myself--some women are screwballs. So I certainly don't expect her to trust me that absolutely.


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Sep 19, 2010 08:09 |  #64

So I see the client's point. However, she has made too much of a point saying that her escort will be a cop. I can't think of a single constructive reason for her to make this point. It could be for intimidation. In fact, that's what springs to mind when I read your post.

To me, escorts are fine. Well most of them. I've turned down some shoots. Once I set up the shoot and was all set to go when the escort called me and wanted to ask a few questions. Supposedly she was an expert and began to grill me on gear and lighting. She hadn't heard of Hasselblad or Photogenic lighting equipment which made her suspicious that I was for real. (She had a friend who shot with a Canon Rebel and a Novatron lights and that's what she thought any pro should use). She pressed on when I stopped her and asked to speak to the client. I then told the client that our shoot was off and not to call me again.

In your case I might proceed with the shoot but I might adjust my pricing upwards for the trouble this has caused you. Make sure you have a good assistant you can trust. Bill her for the assistant. To be funny or ironic you could hire an attorney as your assistant.


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Sep 19, 2010 17:09 |  #65

You say she contacted you?

How did she find you?

Could the ad venue have something to do with her apprehension?

I wonder why she felt the need to tell you her 'friend' was a police officer?

I agree with those who said to bail.

FWIW: I am preparing to do a similar shoot and I plan to video/voice record the shoot for the girls protection as much as for my own.




  
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Sep 19, 2010 17:19 |  #66

I'd say sure, and I'd bring my Lawyer.. :)


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Sep 27, 2010 04:05 |  #67

^^ What he said. By all means bring someone, but also bring someone with you. For all you know it might be a scam.




  
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Sep 27, 2010 04:14 |  #68

Bail out, no trust will show in the images.

Thing is, male photographer, studio, female and a few horror stories combine together to make her point of view understandable.
What would concern me is she's bringing a police officer friend and doesn't believe your sample images are yours.

Politely cancel and point out the reason for doing so is the lack trust she is already laying at your door will show in the images plus making a point of saying her friend is a police officer is not only unnessecary but also intimidating and by defenition insulting to your good name. Because of this you want no part in a photoshoot that is doomed at such an early stage.

If you turn her down without good reason she will assume you have something to hide and tell everyone.

If you have a blog, talk about it in that too and make something good of the experience.


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Sep 27, 2010 04:16 |  #69

Maybe she just doesn't trust *herself*.. Ever looked at it from that angle ?


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Sep 27, 2010 12:35 |  #70

Gel wrote in post #10985384 (external link)
Bail out, no trust will show in the images.

Thing is, male photographer, studio, female and a few horror stories combine together to make her point of view understandable.
What would concern me is she's bringing a police officer friend and doesn't believe your sample images are yours.

Politely cancel and point out the reason for doing so is the lack trust she is already laying at your door will show in the images plus making a point of saying her friend is a police officer is not only unnessecary but also intimidating and by defenition insulting to your good name. Because of this you want no part in a photoshoot that is doomed at such an early stage.

If you turn her down without good reason she will assume you have something to hide and tell everyone.

If you have a blog, talk about it in that too and make something good of the experience.

Best advice in this whole thread....thank you




  
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Sep 27, 2010 20:58 |  #71

So, what did you finally decide? Are you going to do the shoot or not?


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Sep 28, 2010 06:51 as a reply to  @ Ray Marrero's post |  #72

We lost touch............oh well.




  
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Sep 29, 2010 12:11 |  #73

she flaked. Sounds like you're better off that way.


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Sep 29, 2010 12:46 |  #74

She probably will contact you again


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Sep 29, 2010 13:28 |  #75

Although it sounds like this person is a flake and would never show anyway. If they were serious I don't care if they bring the SWAT team with them as long as they can stay out of the way and keep quiet.

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