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DragonFlys with 100-400mm and Life Size converter.

 
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Aug 19, 2005 20:28 |  #1

Tried my hand at some dragonflies today..
I was chasing a Green Heron with the 100-400mm on the 1D MkII .. but never got close enough.. or enough light for a decent shot.

But I did play around with some dragon flys.. and the Canon "EF Life Size Converter"

The EF Life Size Converter is an interesting little addition to any decent lens arsenal...
Contrary to Canon's claim that it is a specific part for use only with the 50mm Macro,... it will fit ANY EF compatible lens..

It's functionality is interesting.. it is essentially a combination of a T-con and an extension tube in one unit. I will need to do some measurebaiting (something I really never do) to determine what sort of additional magnification it offers.. but I suspect it is very close to a 1.4X T-con. But unlike the T-con it also adds the spacing of a 25mm extension tube (approximately) reducing focus distance while boosting magnification with one part.

It's front element is also slightly recessed,. so unlike Canon's dedicated Teleconverters.. the EF Life Size Converter does not protrude forward and will fit any lens.

Using it with the 100-400mm @ 400mm, manual exposure 1/125th f/10 with 580EX flash I was stunned to see how the EF Life Size Converter seems to impart ZERO image degradation.

Here's a sample...

IMAGE: http://jakehegnauer.zenfolio.com/img/s6/v148/p121746659-4.jpg
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100% crop ZERO SHARPENING
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For comparison.. this image is the 100-400mm on it's own, natural light, no flash.

IMAGE: http://jakehegnauer.zenfolio.com/img/s5/v132/p116914472-3.jpg
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The EF Life Size Converter is About the same size as the 1.4X T-con.. it is slightly lighter in weight (has less glass than the T-con)... but it is slightly longer.. (due to the "extension tube" hollow part)

I think it would make a great addition to any Macro enthusiasts bag of tricks.

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Aug 19, 2005 20:32 |  #2

WOW, Extremely fantastic shots. Very impressive Converter as well. Its going on my list, right now. Perfect shots. thanks for sharing this bit of info. very much, as well as sharing the photos.


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Aug 19, 2005 20:41 |  #3

Very nice information. I appreciate you sharing and insight. Is this new to the Canon lineup? I ask only because I've never heard it mentioned before, at least never here on POTN that I know of.

What a great addition to the 100-400 setup. It's going on my wishlist too!

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Aug 19, 2005 20:42 |  #4

Incredible pics CDS. Could you post a picture of what the rig looks like? I've never seen the Life Size Converter.


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Aug 19, 2005 20:57 |  #5

Thanks guys,

This is from Canon's site;

IMAGE: http://consumer.usa.canon.com/app/images/lens/lsc_ef_586x225.jpg

Life-Size Converter EF
Item Code: 2818A004

This optional accessory is designed to work strictly with the EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro lens. Unlike typical life-size adapters, the Life Size Converter EF actually has optics that are optimized for high magnification when combined with the 50mm macro lens. Magnifications from 0.26x (approx. 1/4 life-size) to 1.0x (true life size) are possible, at increased working distances.

http://consumer.usa.ca​non.com …tegoryid=155&mo​delid=8121 (external link)

It was Martin (AKA Huckaback Photo) that mentions in the -=T-Con=- FAQ that this unit is in fact NOT slimited to the 50MM Macro in functionality.. So when I found one used I grabbed it!

Tubes definitely have there advantages.. the only advantage the Life size converter has over a tube alone.. is increased working distance to get the same magnification .. (just like adding a T-con would offer)

FYI here's a size comparison;


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Left to right: 12mm EXtension Tube - EF 1.4X TC - EF Life Size Conveerter - EF 2X TC


O-kay.. a little magnification comparison..
THIS IS NOT A QUALITY TEST (I don't get into those.. :) ;) )

Just a test to see what kind of T-con effect the LSC offers..

I used the 70-200mm f/2.8 as a test vehicle so I could use the tripod mount to keep the lens in the same position.. and it would allow the use of all my T-cons.

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Aug 19, 2005 20:59 |  #6

Great shots, CDS. Thanks for sharing the information. I thought the life converter is only good for the EF50mm as advertised. How far were you from the dragonfly with and without the life converter?


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Aug 19, 2005 21:10 |  #7

Nice shots and great info, thanks!


The devil is in the details...Especially at 100% crop!

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Aug 19, 2005 21:10 |  #8

Cyber very sharp images here, and I have always wondered about that TC for the 50mm macro, I have to say though I seem to get some pretty good results with ex tubes and I have less loss of light in the process and any Tc will amplify any problems with any lens whether it be prime or zoom but most zooms fare less well as normal zoom optics are not as sharp as a prime would be.




  
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Aug 19, 2005 21:18 |  #9

Great shots CDS. Canon might sell a few more of these with your marketing :-)


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Aug 19, 2005 21:19 as a reply to  @ Dragonslayer's post |  #10

Amazing shots.

Did you get model releases signed?


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Aug 19, 2005 21:37 |  #11

Wow CDS, those are some super captures, GJ. Dang the sharpness is good.


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Aug 19, 2005 21:51 as a reply to  @ Belmondo's post |  #12

belmondo wrote:
Did you get model releases signed?

:lol: .. nah.. he just gave me his address so I could mail him prints...


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Aug 19, 2005 22:01 |  #13

CyberDyneSystems wrote:
Tubes definitely have there advantages.. the only advantage the Life size converter has over a tube alone.. is increased working distance to get the same magnification .. (just like adding a T-con would offer)

FYI here's a size comparison;

Left to right: 12mm EXtension Tube - EF 1.4X TC - EF Life Size Conveerter - EF 2X TC

Thanks CDS ...

Looks like possibly another item for my B&H wishlist :lol:


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Aug 19, 2005 22:09 |  #14

WOW CDS! These shots are amazing! :shock: That cropped photo STILL shows how sharp it is. :D So you find that the life size converter from Canon works well with ALL their EF lenses? I wonder what I should expect to pay for one of these? Thanks for sharing this.
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Aug 19, 2005 22:30 |  #15

It's a pretty pricey option if you get it new (I think $250.00?) .. I was lucky to find one about half that price :) :) :) :)

I have not tested it to see how well it works with all my lenses.. in fact I've only dione that with the 100-400mm and the 100mm Macro..

But it does FIT on all of them...

I have to say.. I did not expect the results to be this good on the big clunky zoom.. :)

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Eric.. you do lose infinity focus with it.. essentially the effect is about the same as adding a 14X t-con (roughly) and a 24mm extension tube (roughly).. all in one unit.


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