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Equestrian - Show Jumping

 
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Sep 13, 2010 15:42 |  #1

I think this fits here best - not my horse so Pets didn't seem to fit. This was from a tournament that our stable held. I'm still learning - both the horse sports and shooting sports. But all in all, I was pleased with this shot. What do you think? I'll appreciate all C&C!


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Sep 13, 2010 15:52 |  #2

Is this picture heavily cropped? What lens were you using?


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Sep 13, 2010 16:08 |  #3

35mmNewbie wrote in post #10901611 (external link)
Is this picture heavily cropped? What lens were you using?

Yeah - I suppose you could say that... I used my 75-300 at 300mm. When I thought first, I was going to answer that it was 480mm equivalent, but when I checked the cropped version I posted here, PICASA says it is equivalent to 739mm. (I didn't know it calculated in the crop like that!)

Anyway...as I said, I was pleased with how it turned out. Sometimes even a blind hog finds an acorn.


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Sep 13, 2010 20:32 |  #4

The horse and rider look good, but the picture is soft. I see you were using ISO 1600 and an aperture of 10. I would rather see this shot at ISO 100-200 and an aperture of around 4, give or take a stop. Your image would be a lot cleaner at a much lower ISO. I would also like to see this in horizontal orientation instead of vertical since it's a profile shot.


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Sep 14, 2010 07:30 |  #5

bayberry wrote in post #10903226 (external link)
The horse and rider look good, but the picture is soft. I see you were using ISO 1600 and an aperture of 10. I would rather see this shot at ISO 100-200 and an aperture of around 4, give or take a stop. Your image would be a lot cleaner at a much lower ISO. I would also like to see this in horizontal orientation instead of vertical since it's a profile shot.

Thanks for the suggestions. Had crazy weather that day - everything from pouring rain, really dark overcast, and even sunshine - and it changed back and forth every few minutes and that made for some "interesting" lighting conditions For much of the day, I could never have used ISO 100 even shooting wide open. During this rider's round, the sun popped out and I didn't take time to adjust between jumps.

I know this would have been better horizontal - and I shot it that way. I wasn't in the ring and from my place on the side from across the ring, this jump had an obstruction just to the right of frame. I cropped it verticle to salvage this view.

Some questions for those of you who have more experience at this: I was shooting shutter-priority so that I could make sure to have a fast enough shutter speed to stop the action. I then adjusted the ISO to get to get the aperture where I wanted it to help blur the background. For jumping or other sports at this approximate speed, what is a 'fast enough' shutter speed? Is there a better way than shutter priority to shoot these sort of events?

Thanks for the help!


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Sep 14, 2010 10:39 |  #6

kfyount wrote in post #10905683 (external link)
Thanks for the suggestions. Had crazy weather that day - everything from pouring rain, really dark overcast, and even sunshine - and it changed back and forth every few minutes and that made for some "interesting" lighting conditions For much of the day, I could never have used ISO 100 even shooting wide open. During this rider's round, the sun popped out and I didn't take time to adjust between jumps.

I know this would have been better horizontal - and I shot it that way. I wasn't in the ring and from my place on the side from across the ring, this jump had an obstruction just to the right of frame. I cropped it verticle to salvage this view.

Some questions for those of you who have more experience at this: I was shooting shutter-priority so that I could make sure to have a fast enough shutter speed to stop the action. I then adjusted the ISO to get to get the aperture where I wanted it to help blur the background. For jumping or other sports at this approximate speed, what is a 'fast enough' shutter speed? Is there a better way than shutter priority to shoot these sort of events?

Thanks for the help!

I shoot aperture priority and adjust the ISO to get the desired shutter speed. ISO and aperture have too much of an effect on an image so I prefer to set those myself how I want them. In bad lighting I shoot wide open at 2.8. I never go smaller than f/4 when shooting jumping as I prefer a shallow DOF. A bare minimum would be 1/500 for shutter speed if you have a good smooth panning technique but I try to get it closer to 1/1000. On my Nikon it's just a quick spin of a dial to adjust ISO so I can literally change on the fly within five or so strides of a jump.


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Sep 14, 2010 12:56 |  #7

bayberry wrote in post #10906604 (external link)
I shoot aperture priority and adjust the ISO to get the desired shutter speed. ISO and aperture have too much of an effect on an image so I prefer to set those myself how I want them. In bad lighting I shoot wide open at 2.8. I never go smaller than f/4 when shooting jumping as I prefer a shallow DOF. A bare minimum would be 1/500 for shutter speed if you have a good smooth panning technique but I try to get it closer to 1/1000. On my Nikon it's just a quick spin of a dial to adjust ISO so I can literally change on the fly within five or so strides of a jump.


Thanks again for sharing your technique. I'll try that next time. With my 1000D, setting iSO is an extra step than just spinng the dial but normally, one can find a workable setting and stick with it. This day was just a bit challenging. (But here in the Rhineland, we have that crazy weather more than I ever experienced in the states.)

Hope to get some better ones next time but now we're going into the indoor season...


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Sep 25, 2010 19:27 |  #8

I normally shoot aperture priority since I like to control the DOF, but the setting should depend on your distance to the action. I usually shoot f/4 to f/5.6, but when close to the action (or with a larger telephoto lens), I have shoot at higher aperture settings and still managed to get a decent background blur. Even at f/5.6, I've had the back of the horse out of focus because the DOF was too shallow because of my distance to the action.

Here are a few sample shots of my granddaughter on her horse (mostly taken during practice) with different aperture settings to give you an idea.

Canon 30D, Canon 100-400 - 1/640s f/5.6 at 235.0mm iso200

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/bob_r/image/122293193.jpg

30D, Canon 200 f/2.8L - 1/2000s f/4.0 at 200.0mm iso200
IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/bob_r/image/126661405.jpg

30D, Canon 200 f/2.8L - 1/800s f/7.1 at 200.0mm iso400 (even at 7.1, the background is blurred)
IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/bob_r/image/128593865.jpg

I took this one today (trying out my new 7D)
7D, Canon 200 f/2.8L - 1/1000s f/5.6 at 200.0mm iso200
IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/bob_r/image/128815445.jpg

Canon 7D, 5D, 35L, 50 f/1.4, 85 f/1.8, 135L, 200L, 10-22, 17-55, 70-300, 100-400L, 500D, 580EX(2).
Sigma 150 macro, 1.4X, 2X, Quantaray 2X, Kenko closeup tubes, Yongnuo YN685(3), Yongnuo YN-622C-TX. Lots of studio stuff.
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