Lightroom 3.2 Printing

I printed a picture from Lightroom and it came out very dull, not vibrant at all. The reds were almost non existent.
Did I miss a setting.
When I printed it from CS5 or another software the colors were great.

Possibly, Lightroom printing isn't as simple as it should be.

Are you using printer managed colours or application managed?

If application managed, have you selected the correct ICC profile for your paper and made sure the printer driver is also set to application managed?

I was using Printer Managed

Depending on the printer, that may be the issue. Lightroom by default uses the ProPhoto colour space which some printer drivers have issues converting into their output space.

Try using application managed and selecting your paper profile from within Lightroom. You may need to first select "other" then tick any profiles you use from the popup list. Remember to set your printer driver to application managed colour. I'd also recommend using relative rendering intent.

What printer? I get perfect prints from my Epson R1900 and LR, but only since I learned a certain trick.

Also, is your monitor hardware calibrated? Because without that all bets are off.

Hank: Will try that, thanks.

tzalman: Kodak Pro 1400

Shawn, did your printer driver come with paper profiles that are, as Hank mentions, visible to Lightroom? If so, you have something to try, but some consumer ink jets don't provide profiles for external apps, in which case you'll need to adjust your final file to get the print you need when doing Printer Managed printing.

tzalman wrote in post #10931239
What printer? I get perfect prints from my Epson R1900 and LR, but only since I learned a certain trick.

Also, is your monitor hardware calibrated? Because without that all bets are off.

I need to ask you what the "trick" is...My R1900 prints with exposure a half stop too dark...

carshop wrote in post #10931149
When I printed it from CS5 or another software the colors were great.

carshop wrote in post #10931207
I was using Printer Managed

In both applications?

With the same settings, they should produce the same print. Then again, LR using MelissaRGB as a working space might present prioblems.

Try letting the software manage colors.

Bakewell wrote in post #10932559
I need to ask you what the "trick" is...My R1900 prints with exposure a half stop too dark...

No problem, although it is going to sound goofy, but it works. Set up LR to manage the printing and select the profile for your paper. So far it's normal but now comes the goofy part. Open the driver GUI, Advanced tab and ICM. If until now you have been doing the color management from LR, 'Off (no color adjustment)' should be checked. Uncheck it. ICM Mode is Driver ICM (basic) and for both the Input Profile and and the Printer Profile set exactly the same profile that you set in LR. The first part is logical because the incoming data from LR is indeed in that space, but you'd think that setting Input and Printer to the same thing would mean that no conversion will take place. But something does change in the data because now it prints lighter and pretty accurately.

I learned about this here:
http://www.lightroomfo​rums.net/index.php?top​ic=2863.0

tzalman wrote in post #10933037
No problem, although it is going to sound goofy, but it works. Set up LR to manage the printing and select the profile for your paper. So far it's normal but now comes the goofy part. Open the driver GUI, Advanced tab and ICM. If until now you have been doing the color management from LR, 'Off (no color adjustment)' should be checked. Uncheck it. ICM Mode is Driver ICM (basic) and for both the Input Profile and and the Printer Profile set exactly the same profile that you set in LR. The first part is logical because the incoming data from LR is indeed in that space, but you'd think that setting Input and Printer to the same thing would mean that no conversion will take place. But something does change in the data because now it prints lighter and pretty accurately.

I learned about this here:
http://www.lightroomfo​rums.net/index.php?top​ic=2863.0

Thanks for the tip....glad it worked for you. I saw this thread before but it did not help. Thanks again.

René Damkot wrote in post #10932857
In both applications?

With the same settings, they should produce the same print. Then again, LR using MelissaRGB as a working space might present prioblems.

Try letting the software manage colors.

Will try, thanks

Bakewell wrote in post #10934525
Thanks for the tip....glad it worked for you. I saw this thread before but it did not help. Thanks again.

And the problem only occurs when printing from LR?

What OS / printerdriver?

René Damkot wrote in post #10936631
And the problem only occurs when printing from LR?

What OS / printerdriver?

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 / Epson R1900 specific from their website.

Yes, only when printing from LR 3.2 (or earlier). Monitor is calibrated and photos look good when exported as 100% jpgs or email quality. Other people/monitors see the correct exposure... I don't print that much but just jack up the exposure when I do. I'm sure the problem will eventually correct itself via new hardware/software.

Are you sure the issue isn't just that your screen is too bright?

On a sidenote: Matt Kloskowski did a blogpost on printing from LR, with a correction.

http://lightroomkiller​tips.com …o-getting-brigher-prints/

Don't agree with him, but it might help.