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Sep 18, 2010 16:03 |  #1

I happened apon a group of Civil War enactors this morning and was able to take a few photos. I thought I'd try to make the photos look a bit historical too. Here are a couple of different treatments. Your thoughts on these are appreciated.


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Sep 18, 2010 16:06 |  #2

I like the texture in #1 but you need to back off on the "Glamour Glow" overall.


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Sep 18, 2010 19:47 |  #3

i like the look all around.


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Sep 18, 2010 21:15 |  #4

I really like the first one.


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Sep 18, 2010 21:16 |  #5

I'm not digging the diffused glow either, otherwise I like the editing.


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Sep 18, 2010 22:30 as a reply to  @ lonelyjew's post |  #6

Thanks for the comments. I never thought of that look as "glamor glow". :D Basically, all the above images were treated the same but with fewer steps. The first image had all the adjustments I wanted to add, the second, everything but the wrinkled paper and the third, no paper texture look or tone applied.

This is the same third image above that I gave a tighter crop to, added the tone and the textured paper. It started out with the "glow".


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Sep 18, 2010 23:09 |  #7

I'll tolerate Sepia*, but the glow isn't accurate. Even Matthew Brady took reasonably sharp images where possible.

(*Sepia is a function of age. If you really want to replicate olde tyme photography, make sharp, contrasty B&W images and stash them away for 100 years like the original plate and negative images were handled. ;) )


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Sep 18, 2010 23:47 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #8

Jay, my images are supposed to replicate a yellowing due to time rather than the brownish sepia tint. Also, sepia was a chemical process used during the photo processing rather than an effect of aging:

Beginning in the 1880s, sepia was produced by adding a pigment, called sepia, made from the Sepia officinalis cuttlefish found in the English channel, to the positive print of a photograph.

Sepia toning is a specialized treatment to give the photograph a warmer tone and to enhance its archival qualities. Chemicals are used to convert the metallic silver in the print to a sulfide compound, which is much more resistant to the effects of environmental pollutants such as atmospheric sulfur compounds. Silver sulfide is at least 50% more stable than silver.

The 'glow' I used was supposed to replicate the look found on some high contrast images that have faded over time leaving little detail in the highlights. Of course, what I visualize in my mind may be 180° off from reality. :confused: I agree with you on the high quality of many photographs taken during the civil war period. They were extremely sharp and had a very wide range of tonality. Of course, I've also seen many that have fared worse for the wear over time.


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Sep 19, 2010 01:55 |  #9

I agree with all above. Although I think the first shot is best, it looses authenticity for me because the girl at the side is smiling ;-)a


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Sep 19, 2010 04:22 |  #10

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I agree with all above. Although I think the first shot is best, it looses authenticity for me because the girl at the side is smiling ;-)a

I thought the same thing, but thought it was just me.

I think number 1 would be spot on if she looked un-happy.


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Sep 19, 2010 16:19 as a reply to  @ ETERNAL's post |  #11

I originally thought I'd crop out the female just for that reason but didn't. It's rare to see someone smile in those old photos.

Here is another attempt at the 'look'. I did crop to include only the boy soldier and used some different techniques that I thought turned out well.

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Sep 19, 2010 18:20 |  #12

Has a much, much more authentic feel I think...


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Sep 19, 2010 18:48 |  #13

I like it - much better


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Sep 19, 2010 23:24 |  #14

Much better!


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Sep 19, 2010 23:46 |  #15

Just a note note, what was the workflow you performed to do this? Would like to try it myself :-)


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