-=NEWS=- Canon EOS-1D Mark II N

There is a mention in the DPREVIEW news item about 'improved buffering characteristics'. If the 'N' can write the images faster (even a little bit) than the MKII you could potentially have a faster continuous rate even when the buffer fills.

Just a thought. . .

Have Fun,

I bought a 20D as a backup body partly so that I wouldn't feel pressured to get a second professional body, in addition to my 1DMkII, before the RIGHT STUFF® was available ... so I'm still waitin'. I, too, think that Canon is not yet able to drive full sized sensor at 8-12 fps which is preventing a 1DMIII.

martook wrote:
It's kinda funny how people are dissapointed that they don't have to spend a huge amount of cash to upgrade something they don't really need an upgrade for... "Oh man, now I don't have to spend another 4 grand! Damn!"

I couldn't agree more. This is no reason for anyone with a MKII to "upgrade" if you can even call it that. Personally, I am freaking tickled pink. My MKII keeps value, though that's NOT why I buy cameras, I could care less if it was now worth 12-cents. It still takes the same great pictures it did yesterday, before the announcement.

The 5D however, does interest me, but I'm not jumping off that cliff unless my studio profits warrant it.

I agree - I'm glad that they improved it a bit, but I wouldn't trade for the modest upgrade. If I were adding a second pro body, then I'd shoot for the new one.

I also see the 5D as a very interesting prospect. But I'm also aware that I really can't have both, and I believe that the 1D2 will remain in my possession.

I am much more excited about the 5D! Looks like I will be upgrading the 20D to 5D and keeping the 1D Mark II as is. I am so looking forward to FF sensor

Here's the 1D MKIIN press release from Canon USA. Unusual that it wasn't published to the Web site until this evening. It goes into a little more detail on some of the features like the increased burst performance.

http://www.usa.canon.c​om …20050822_eos1dm​ark2n.html

Have Fun,

1dmk2 has buffer of 40 frames for jpeg and if I remember right 18frames for raw, but I never shoot in raw so I don't remeber this. Old 1d has 20 frames buffer and for me this is more then enough already, so 40 frames of 1dmk2 is not something what would make me jump of happines, and this "upgrade" to 48 frames in 1dmk2n doesn't mean anything to me at all.
I think it will be a bit different with old 1dmk2. You could get old 1d for much less once 1dmk2 came out. People were changing cameras because 1dmk2 was a lot better then 1d. With this now people will be changing cameras when old ones will die. I don't think many of us would go change 1dmk2 for 1dmk2n and this means you don't have many chances for cheap used 1dmk2... at least if you want working one

I don't see the 1D MkII N as being a new camera, it is simply an update of the existing camera. The performance has been tweaked, but is not substantially different. The 2.5" LCD is better, but most photographers use the LCD very little once they are comfortable with the camera - and the old LCD is adequate for checking the histogram.

Maybe Canon is trying to hold off the upgrade on either 1 series digital until they are ready to combine the 2 into 1?

The 5D looks like the best camera option for those that really want a FF camera and don't want to pay for a 1Ds MkII. I wonder what that will do to the prices of 2nd hand 1Ds cameras? If you could get a 1Ds for less than a 5D then it would be a helluva bargain, only 11MPix but with better body and better AF.

I'ld like to know if they are planning to update the 1D2 firmare, so some of the new features (like the automatic cration of folders and backup on second card come availiable to 'old' Mk2 models. (perhaps i should say 1D2'classic' )
Sounds like a software thus firmware thing.... Would be nice. They might as well fix CF 4-3 as they're busy. Apart from that: I'll wait for the 1DMk3 before I consider buying.

I can't see Canon put alot of effort into this "new" body if the changes they have made could have been made in a firmware update. To me, this really is just a continuation of the 1DMKII with some refinements. We'll see a whole new camera from them when they master the buffering of 8+FPS with the MP of the 5D.

I agree, that would be the camera worth thinking to update for Full Frame, 12Mpx and 8+ fps..... ooooooo men, that would be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same here. I'd even be happy with 4-5 fps at 12.8 mp full frame and a user-selectable 1.3x crop at 8MP, 8+ fps. Canon could have easily done this, but they will sell more cameras this way.

Why? Personally, i'ld get confused from a 'switchable cropping factor'
I don't know if it's so easy to do either....
I'ld rather have an option like on the 1D(s)2: Same sensor size, lesser pixels...

Because it's doable, today, and I like the crop factor because even with 1.6x I am often cropping, and I can't afford a 600/4L lens. I also need the faster speed, but I don't want to give up pixels on the part of the image I'm saving. I'd rather throw away the pixels around the outside that are getting cropped out anyway, and capture the highest resolution possible on the sweet spot of the lens.

Canon won't do it becuase it's a 1Ds Mk II and a 1D Mk II in one camera.

If you think it can't be done, check out the specs on the Nikon D2X:

• 12.4 megapixel High Resolution @ 5fps up to 21 JPEG/15 NEF
  
• 6.8 megapixel High-Speed Cropped mode @ 8fps up to 35 JPEG/26 NEF
  

I agree with Phil ... much better to crop out pixels along the edges of the sensor than to sacrifice resolution throughout the entire image. What is the positive benefit of that? You don't get the cropped field of view (with maintained pixel density) that a switchable "x-factor" provides. (The benefit being longer reach (sort of) with telephoto lenses ... and faster FPS.) All you get is less pixels (less resolution) with the same field of view.