Professional Equipment

Just to gripe -

Our hobbist equipment, on old xti, a Sony A100, take it out in the rain, bump it on rocks when hiking, leave it in the car in 90 degree weather, in -10 degree weather. No problems, never an error code or a failure after 5 years.

Our 5D, we treat like glass, only use it for the professional jobs, always in the case when it's not being used, never leave it in the car, don't take it out in adverse conditions. A year and a half and it needs repaired.

Got to love the extra quality that goes into the professional grade stuff.

The 5D is not built to "professional" grade. The 1-series is Canon's pro gear. My 5D is over 4 years old and has never had an issue or stopped working.

Anything electronic/mechanical can break. That's just how the cookie crumbles.

5D is not pro gear as Happy mentioned. If you want pro gear then go for the 1X line at double the cost.

Amateur gear. Pro gear. Each item has its own designated MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure) rate. Statistically some will fail before, on or after, this rate.

yeah, I know, it's just the way the cookie crumbles, it's still frustrating though when the camera that costs four times as much fails on you. On the other hand voicing it and having people tell me that's life has made it easier to shrug off.

It always seems like when you try not to scratch the glass on your watch or your phone screen you're too careful with it and it gets scratched. I'll tell you what my car salesmen told me when I was worried about damaging my car. You pay a lot of money for it- enjoy it

They're all just tools. I use an old 5D in the rain, and not the 5D2, even thought the weatherproofing is probably better, the 5D is more disposable. I keep a contax 24-85 on it (5D) an carry everywhere. I've had 2 5D classics, and never an issue.

Yeah, neither are pro grade. Once you use a 1Dseries, you'll know. I carried my 1DsI and II in the rain, but for a different reason — it could handle it — and thats all I had.

So my 2¢ is: pro grade may be a Canon marketing/mfg level, but it means nothing left in the box (or at home). Maybe your 5D is rebelling against not being used enough.

Canon considers the 5D a professional camera, though it's not built to take knocks like a 1 series. Cameras just wear out, there's lots of moving parts.

its all pro grade if you're pro grade

even the iphone is pro grade enough for fashion!
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isophotostudio wrote in post #10970291
Just to gripe -

Our hobbist equipment, on old xti, a Sony A100, take it out in the rain, bump it on rocks when hiking, leave it in the car in 90 degree weather, in -10 degree weather. No problems, never an error code or a failure after 5 years.

Our 5D, we treat like glass, only use it for the professional jobs, always in the case when it's not being used, never leave it in the car, don't take it out in adverse conditions. A year and a half and it needs repaired.

Got to love the extra quality that goes into the professional grade stuff.

That does suck. Sorry to hear your troubles.

Part of being "pro" equipment isn't necessarily the ability to toss it on the rocks. It's also about weather sealing and working performance (chip size, resolution, battery life, etc.)

tim wrote in post #10978853
Canon considers the 5D a professional camera, though it's not built to take knocks like a 1 series. Cameras just wear out, there's lots of moving parts.

Actually, Canon Inc does not consider the 5D a "professional" camera. Canon USA and some other regional subsidiaries market it to pros, but the chief of Canon's camera division stated in a news conference when the 5D was released that it was designed to woo amateurs who were still using film. I've been told (but I don't know this as a fact) that a Canon-using professional in Japan would not be caught with anything less than a 1-series.

Yet, for professionals who are used to medium format cameras--all of which are pretty delicate compared to 35mm cameras--the 5D is as rugged as those cameras, focuses better, and operates faster. So it's marketable to the wedding and portrait photographers who had been using Mamiyas and Bronicas.

Yeah that's true, but i've been told by Canon people in NZ that the 5D is now considered a wedding and landscape camera.

CPS considers the 5D a platinum-level professional camera.

theextremist04 wrote in post #10983053
CPS considers the 5D a platinum-level professional camera.

Each CPS (where they exist) is run by the regional Canon subsidiaries. As I said above, the subsidiaries are marketing the 5D as professional cameras, however Canon Inc--where the design decisions are made--considers the 5D a consumer camera. That's why it shares features with the other consumer cameras, not with the 1-Series cameras.

That's also why it's not a "3D"--the old 3-series EOS cameras did share features with the 1-series cameras and was considered by Canon Inc in its design to be a professional camera.