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Sep 27, 2010 16:28 |  #1

I use Lightroom and so do the photographers I second for.

Sometimes I'll do little things like colour or exposure correct, crop and maybe some creative edits before I pass my images along to the primary photographer for their edit.

I usually export the RAW file along with the XMP (choosing Original) to give them but I just played with an export and when I imported the file onto my other computer the changes I made weren't there. Is there a setting I missed?

Is there another way to do this and give the primary both my edit and the RAW file?




  
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Sep 27, 2010 16:31 |  #2

I'd export your "full" edits as .tif files and leave the RAW alone entirely...

(Unless you're being paid to specifically edit and the primary expects .CR2 + XMP)


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Sep 27, 2010 16:42 |  #3

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I'd export your "full" edits as .tif files and leave the RAW alone entirely...

(Unless you're being paid to specifically edit and the primary expects .CR2 + XMP)

I was thinking about doing two exports but am trying to avoid that.

I guess part of the question is how do you import the XMP with the changes?




  
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Sep 27, 2010 16:50 |  #4

Well, you save the xmp file, using "Save Metadata to File", correct? Then are you exectuting the "Read Metadata from File" in the other computer after you copy the CR2 and the xmp files over?


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Sep 27, 2010 16:58 |  #5

^^^ I do belive Tony is (as always) correct ^^^


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Sep 27, 2010 17:31 |  #6

tonylong wrote in post #10988924 (external link)
Well, you save the xmp file, using "Save Metadata to File", correct? Then are you exectuting the "Read Metadata from File" in the other computer after you copy the CR2 and the xmp files over?

If I export "as Original", the XMP file is exported along with the RAW. I just played around a bit more and did the "Read Metadate from File" thing (which I missed before) but it's not really what I was hoping for.




  
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Sep 27, 2010 22:30 |  #7

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If I export "as Original", the XMP file is exported along with the RAW. I just played around a bit more and did the "Read Metadate from File" thing (which I missed before) but it's not really what I was hoping for.

Well, OK, are you saying that when you do the "Read" it doesn't Read? Maybe we need to have another meetup to solve this and we should make Jay come!


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Sep 28, 2010 00:52 |  #8

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Well, OK, are you saying that when you do the "Read" it doesn't Read? Maybe we need to have another meetup to solve this and we should make Jay come!

No, it reads. I was just looking for a way that you could import both the RAW and the XMP files together without having to manually copy all the XMP's over. That and having the history come over as well.




  
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Sep 28, 2010 00:57 |  #9

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No, it reads. I was just looking for a way that you could import both the RAW and the XMP files together without having to manually copy all the XMP's over. That and having the history come over as well.

It occurs to me that when I cull images for my monthly photo club meetings, I export them as "ORIGINAL" and send that copy to a folder where I keep all the shots I've printed over the last few years.

Those files go over as CR2 + XMP all by themselves and I don't Write/Read anything. I just send them, synchronize that folder and the edits are there. Just takes a second for them to pop in and take effect.

Why is this any different (assuming your images are going to someone who's using LR...)


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Sep 28, 2010 01:10 |  #10

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It occurs to me that when I cull images for my monthly photo club meetings, I export them as "ORIGINAL" and send that copy to a folder where I keep all the shots I've printed over the last few years.

Those files go over as CR2 + XMP all by themselves and I don't Write/Read anything. I just send them, synchronize that folder and the edits are there. Just takes a second for them to pop in and take effect.

Why is this any different (assuming your images are going to someone who's using LR...)

That's what I'm doing but if you import the photos into another copy of Lightroom you have to manually copy the XMP's over. At least it was that way for me...




  
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Sep 28, 2010 01:12 |  #11

geno.ca wrote in post #10991811 (external link)
That's what I'm doing but if you import the photos into another copy of Lightroom you have to manually copy the XMP's over. At least it was that way for me...

Hmmm.... Is A Puzzlement!

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Sep 28, 2010 07:57 |  #12

geno.ca wrote in post #10991811 (external link)
That's what I'm doing but if you import the photos into another copy of Lightroom you have to manually copy the XMP's over. At least it was that way for me...

If xmp files are present alongside the raw, LR should read them on import assuming you are not applying a preset on import.


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Sep 28, 2010 09:23 |  #13

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If xmp files are present alongside the raw, LR should read them on import assuming you are not applying a preset on import.

I wasn't and it didn't look like it did. I'll give it another try to make sure though. I do know that when it did read them it didn't show any history, only the import and the fully changed version.




  
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Sep 28, 2010 12:37 |  #14

Sure, that sounds okay: There will be no history, since the "import" state is how it was imported into LR. Edits (done on another machine) and all.

Easiest way to check: Crop an image significantly on one machine and check wether the crop carries over to the other machine.


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Sep 28, 2010 15:43 |  #15

Ah, so the edits do show, just not the history. I guess that's like what you get when you do a Virtual Copy -- you copy has all the edits but no history shows up. Hmm, I guess we could call that a glitch, or maybe a feature we'd like to be different, but oh well.


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