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First Day w/ The 60d

 
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Oct 02, 2010 15:17 |  #1
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from the 60d thread last night after opening:

from the 60d thread:

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I will preface this by saying that I've owned and shot with the following cameras for a year or two each:

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I also use the T2i at the studio I work with all the time.

First Thoughts and Impressions:
  • I am an Adorama fanboi 4life but they are closed for the Holiday and I needed this camera for a project tomorrow. The only thing that made this purchase through JandR worth anything was the fact that I got to talk with Harold. He's the only JandR rep that won't bull**** you down there. He knows his stuff and won't steer you wrong.
  • It's small. I mean it's not rebel small and you guys know I have big hands...but holy F this is small! My Tammy 28-75 actually feels heavier than my new 60d.
  • The screen....is awesome! Say what you will but I wish my 5d2 had this!
  • I had the choice between this and a 5d classic...I wish I had the ruggedness of the 5d but then when I had the 5d2 I wish I had the ruggedness of my 1ds.
  • The new button layout is awesome! I mean seriously all of the buttons you'd use the most are right there where your thumb would be.
  • The SD slot is odd, more space in there than you actually need, the SD card is wobbly when not engaged.


I'm shooting a local festival today. I came home for a break and I'm dumping my SD cards. Off Camera pics coming in a few minutes.

First Day Impressions:

  • I love and hate this camera all at one time.
  • The most annoying thing from a PJ point of view is the fact that you have to go all the way from M mode to Video mode on the dial. -it's Rebel roots show right here-
  • The build is cheap feeling, but tough as nails. The camera will get what you think are scrapes very easily, but it wipes clean. It's almost like writing on asphalt with a stone. Even a finger nail will leave a mark that wipes clean. Very odd.
  • The leveler is cool, but I don't use it. I don't think I will use it outside of tripod landscapes.
  • There is no DoF preview, which was weird...but the exposure preview is dope. Literally shows you what your video will look like before you even start. THIS is what I hate about the 5d2 video.
  • I love the burst rate coming from my 5d mark II
  • I love the control layout, it's intuitive and I was shooting as normal within 5 minutes
  • The screen ROCKS! I mean it's f*cking Win! I can pull shots and shoot video without killing myself to get the angle.
  • AF is true and quick even with my Tammy 28-75.


Why did I go 60d? I needed HD video for cheap, I needed a back up to my 5d2, and I didn't want to blow the extra on the 7d. Why didn't I go with the rebel? It has no rear wheel. But make no mistake..it's a giant Rebel.... A giant Rebel on Steroids... Two of my friends came with their 40d and 50d bodies and both agreed that the 60d feels nice. The main difference body size wise seems to come from the missing bottom line of buttons, but since the buttons are all on the right side by your thumb it's fine. Never having to take your thumbs off ready position saves time honestly. I am loving this camera, but I'd never own it as my main rig coming from the xd series. It's fine for a back up though.

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Oct 02, 2010 16:14 |  #2

Mike, good summary.

I similarly grabbed the 60D as a backup for my 5D2 after a string of xxD cameras. We agree on some of the good things about this new camera - screen etc - but I'd disagree on the feel, to me it feels substantial and just as tough as the xxd/xds. The grip is slightly more angular and narrower than that on my 5D2.

For me it could actually end up being my main camera with the 5D2 kept for landscape stuff. I love the utility and the lesser weight is a boon. Time will tell on that, and I haven't gone back to a prolonged session with the 5D2 to really let the differences sink in.

All that aside I don't think the camera should be pitched in terms of what it derived from the rebel line, the xxd line or the xd line. The 60D is the sum of it's features with the flagship feature being that screen.

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Oct 02, 2010 16:20 |  #3
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MichaelBernard wrote in post #11021231 (external link)
I love and hate this camera all at one time.

This has been said by all photographers on every build.


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Oct 02, 2010 16:29 |  #4

EL_PIC wrote in post #11021471 (external link)
This has been said by all photographers on every build.

The point of posting this non-statement was...?


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Oct 02, 2010 17:41 |  #5

Hi

There is no DoF preview, which was weird...

You can find DoF Preview Button at Left side Of Lens Mount

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Oct 02, 2010 18:13 |  #6

navid7h wrote in post #11021799 (external link)
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You can find DoF Preview Button at Left side Of Lens Mount

It looks like Canon is now putting their DoF preview button on the proper side now.


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Oct 02, 2010 18:16 |  #7

i've been shooting for year now and still have no idea what that button does. anyone care to explain??


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Oct 02, 2010 18:28 |  #8

thatguy215 wrote in post #11021916 (external link)
i've been shooting for year now and still have no idea what that button does. anyone care to explain??

Stops the lens down to shooting aperture to view depth of field in the viewfinder or LCD if in live view.




  
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Oct 02, 2010 18:57 as a reply to  @ oldvultureface's post |  #9

MichaelBernard wrote in post #11021231 (external link)
I love and hate this camera all at one time.

EL_PIC wrote in post #11021471 (external link)
This has been said by all photographers on every build.

Of course that might be a SLIGHT exaggeration. :rolleyes:


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Oct 02, 2010 19:14 |  #10

Airedale1 wrote in post #11022052 (external link)
Of course that might be a SLIGHT exaggeration. :rolleyes:

My sentiments exactly.


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Luminodio wrote in post #11021909 (external link)
It looks like Canon is now putting their DoF preview button on the proper side now.

Well I'll be damned that does make it easier to check exposure via your ring finger on grip, but weird!. Came back for another card dump and rest. Took some iso 5,000-12,800 shots. Wow. It's not as clean as my 5d2, but it's as clean as the 7d for sure. Oh and I took some 40,50, and 60d side by side shots. The size difference really is in the bottom of the body. The grip is more sleek and there isn't the extra space for the buttons. Whatever idiot designed the M mode so far from the video mode needs to be fired. If they weren't going to make a direct video button like the 7d has, they could at least make it easier to go to video mode.


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Oct 02, 2010 20:07 |  #12

MichaelBernard wrote in post #11021231 (external link)
...but the exposure preview is dope. Literally shows you what your video will look like before you even start. THIS is what I hate about the 5d2 video.

Have you tried the exposure simulation on the 5DM2, that works pretty well, if you have a constant lcd brightness set. I use mainly AV mode and use ec to get the exposure I need in video, you can even use ec during the video recording. It's so easy to change the exposure using the main wheel.


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Oct 02, 2010 20:10 |  #13

DOF preview on the correct side like the 1D is something they did right for sure! Never should have moved it from the F-series to the A-series :lol:

Interesting that 5DII users are getting 60D as backup. Never would have thought of it but from the video angle it now makes perfect sense.


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lannes wrote in post #11022351 (external link)
Have you tried the exposure simulation on the 5DM2, that works pretty well, if you have a constant lcd brightness set. I use mainly AV mode and use ec to get the exposure I need in video, you can even use ec during the video recording.

Not as yet, I will try it.. DPP 3.8 and LR3 don't see the 60d raw files. Had to upgrade LR3.2 and upgrading now to DPP 3.9


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Oct 02, 2010 20:43 |  #15

MichaelBernard wrote in post #11022472 (external link)
Not as yet, I will try it.. DPP 3.8 and LR3 don't see the 60d raw files. Had to upgrade LR3.2 and upgrading now to DPP 3.9

I actually like previewing the raw images in fastone (uses the raw files embedded JPEG) and then doing the PP in Lightroom 3.2, if it looks good in fastone then it's worth doing some PP on it. I find this much faster for workflow than DPP or lightroom, as you can scroll through and review the full sized images faster without having to import or waiting for the DPP to to load he 24mb raw file. You can even launch your preferred editor from inside fastone. Fastone has so far been compatible with all RAW formats.


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