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Oct 03, 2010 14:52 |  #1

The problem with most (not all) camera backpacks is that they are no more than a padded box that you strap onto your back. Most will carry a lot of gear, but there usually isn't room for any of the necessities such as tool kit, food/snacks, clothing layer, first aid kit, etc. With few exceptions, the harness systems are usually below par, the packs themselves are pretty heavy, and there isn't a second compartment to separate your camera gear from the aforementioned necessities. I've been using a Lowepro Rover AW II and the Dryzone Rover for several years and have been very pleased with them both...two separate compartments for gear and necessities, protection from the elements, excellent tripod carrier, etc. What I felt was missing from each was an internal frame...this would have made the Rover an ideal bag. Still, I'd choose it over many other packs in its price range.

Thought I'd try something different by converting a "real" backpack to a "camera" backpack. The trick was finding a pack that had multiple entry points. The vast majority of hiking packs are top-entry only. This isn't conducive to hiking/photography since most people would load their camera gear towards the bottom, with other things on top. This means rummaging through the pack to get to your gear, and vice versa if the camera gear was towards the top. Since I was only interested in pack for day hikes, I shopped around for a pack in the 30L to 35L range that had two separate entry points, preferably top and bottom. I came across a Deuter 32L Trail Pack at the local REI that had the multiple entry points I needed and decided to give it a try. Deuter makes excellent packs, and the Trail Pack has the typical features that you'd expect: padded/breathable rear, internal frame, excellent harness system, water bladder capable, external pockets, integral rain cover, and light weight. The next step was figuring out how to stow camera gear. Luckily, F-Stop just came out with their new camera inserts (small and medium). Looking at the Deuter pack specs (about 11.5" wide by almost 24" tall, I selected the F-Stop medium insert, which is basically 11" wide, 11" tall, and about 7" deep. This fits perfectly in the pack, and leaves about 11 or 12 inches of space above the insert for stowing necessities.

IMAGE: http://northlake.smugmug.com/Photography/Deuter-Backpack/pack1/1032168646_X5CYQ-L.jpg

The F-Stop insert is large enough for quite a selection of bodies/lenses. Fully customizable, and the insert also has velcro straps that can secure the foam pieces tightly against the camera body or lenses to prevent shifting. The lid/cover of the insert is also padded, which will act as an additional layer of protection. The largest lens that I can stow vertically is the 24-70L; the 24-105L and 17-40L fit vertically with room to spare. The insert is also tapered, being wider at the bottom than at the top. Longer lenses, such as the 70-200's, will need to be stored lengthwise. Still, there's plenty of room.

IMAGE: http://northlake.smugmug.com/Photography/Deuter-Backpack/pack2/1032169270_nDL6C-L.jpg

Getting the insert into the pack wasn't difficult...squeeze it, fit it in, that's about it. I could probably add some velcro between the sides of the insert and the sides of the pack, but its tight enough where anything stored above won't be able to fall down along the sides of the insert.

IMAGE: http://northlake.smugmug.com/Photography/Deuter-Backpack/pack3/1032170074_LX4Sj-XL.jpg

The last thing to figure out was the tripod mounting method. There's a long zippered pocket down one side of the pack, the opposite side has a mesh pocket. Either could have been used to hold the tripod feet, but I prefer the tripod down the center for better balance. I had a local seamstress sew a canon L lens pouch onto the flap that forms the bottom entry point to the pack. This allows me to flip the pouch out when I need to carry the tripod and acts to hold the tripod legs; the pouch can be tightened using the drawstrings. When I don't need it, I simply flip it back into the pack and close the zipper. The bungees on the front of the pack act to hold the tripod in place, and a separate lashing strap that I thread through the drinking tube loop on the back of the pack secures the tripod head to the pack for more stability (not shown).

IMAGE: http://northlake.smugmug.com/Photography/Deuter-Backpack/pack4/1032170536_ujmS5-XL.jpg

Fit-wise, the pack is excellent. Good balance, can easily carry what I need for extended day hikes, and the two entry points makes life a lot easier on the trails. My only gripe about the pack is the zippered pocket...I'd have preferred a second mesh pocket for an additional water bottle since I'm not a fan of water bladders. Either way, its a small compromise. Looking forward to taking it on my first outing beyond the back yard.

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Oct 03, 2010 15:19 |  #2

Looks like a good setup to me!
I much prefer a dedicated hiking pack to a camera/laptop backpack any day. Even a lot of the ones that are sold as school backpacks just not designed well.
6 years ago I needed a new backpack for travelling and decided to spend a little more money on a good one. Went to a local outfitters and found one that fits me. Have taken it to Ukraine twice, using it as a carry-on and then used it everyday as I was out and about all day and needed to take a fair bit of stuff with me. A friend borrowed it for a similar trip. I use it everyday for work, carrying my lunch, uniform, etc. It has been on many trail riding/hiking/camping trips and has been used for school as well. It never sees the inside of a closet.
Buying a quality pack means you get your money's worth. I have scrubbed this pack down many a times, it's been drenched in rain (rain cover is awesome!), and generally put through the paces. The only thing that has failed on this is one of the drink tube clips got snapped off when it was in a pile of luggage. No zipper failures, strap or buckle failures, rips or tears. Nothing has gone wrong.
I have a small camera bag that fits inside it snugly. It will hold my camera and lenses. Accessories go in other pockets. I put my tripod in one of the water bottle pockets and use the compression strap to hold it in place. If I wanted to I could secure it to the daisy chain that runs down the back, or use the attachment straps on the bottom. Had come in very handy for Urban Exploring.

All in all, spending the time to find a proper backpack is definitely worth it. Camera packs are expensive but not designed well for wearing. Comfort and ergonomics are essential. Why let your gear hold you back?

Thanks for the post!


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Oct 03, 2010 18:28 |  #3

Curious as to why you didn't just try one of the F-Stop packs ? As they seem to be designed to offer exactly what you are looking for ?



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Oct 03, 2010 18:45 |  #4

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Curious as to why you didn't just try one of the F-Stop packs ? As they seem to be designed to offer exactly what you are looking for ?

Couple of reasons. First, didn't want to spend close to, or upwards of, $300 for a backpack that'll be used strictly for day hikes. Second, this was pretty easy to do and suits my needs better.


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Oct 03, 2010 20:48 |  #5

Very interesting concept that you came up with. Would it be possible to see what it looks like with your camera gear stored in it? (specifically the lenses and camera body). Also, would a gripped camera fit in it?



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Oct 03, 2010 21:45 |  #6

Nice setup, Mike. Would love to hear your reviews on it after you take the backpack further than your backyard as well. :)


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Oct 04, 2010 01:22 |  #7

This seems to be the best of both worlds.


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Oct 04, 2010 01:33 |  #8

Love it, I might have to do this.


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Oct 04, 2010 03:15 |  #9
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this looks like a solid set up and a great value - i'd like to see more pics of your gear loaded too, if you have a chance


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Oct 04, 2010 17:24 |  #10

Mr. Bill wrote in post #11027688 (external link)
Very interesting concept that you came up with. Would it be possible to see what it looks like with your camera gear stored in it? (specifically the lenses and camera body). Also, would a gripped camera fit in it?

misshotnspicy wrote in post #11028087 (external link)
Nice setup, Mike. Would love to hear your reviews on it after you take the backpack further than your backyard as well. :)

Andrushka wrote in post #11029548 (external link)
this looks like a solid set up and a great value - i'd like to see more pics of your gear loaded too, if you have a chance

I'll try to get some "loaded" shots in the next day or so...


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Oct 04, 2010 19:35 |  #11

"I had a local seamstress sew a canon L lens pouch onto the flap that forms the bottom entry point to the pack. This allows me to flip the pouch out when I need to carry the tripod and acts to hold the tripod legs; the pouch can be tightened using the drawstrings. "

heheheh great idea for turning a pouch into a tripod holder.

this looks like a very nice build. congrats on your project!


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Oct 04, 2010 21:23 |  #12

Nice set up Mike. Let me know how it works out comfort wise.




  
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Oct 04, 2010 22:08 |  #13

How much does it weigh, the combination of the Deuter and the f stop padding?


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Oct 05, 2010 08:13 |  #14

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How much does it weigh, the combination of the Deuter and the f stop padding?

My guess is about 4 pounds (or just under) empty...the pack is just about three pounds, and the ICU feels about one pound or less. The lens pouch is basically negligible.


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Oct 05, 2010 08:19 |  #15

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My guess is about 4 pounds (or just under) empty...the pack is just about three pounds, and the ICU feels about one pound or less. The lens pouch is basically negligible.

Thanks. I always check on a bathroom scale. I'm trying to compare to a standard camera backpack.


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