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Aug 24, 2005 10:06 |  #1

Ok I've seen a lot of photographers using flash brackets and I want to get one but I'm just so darn overwhealmed with the options and not really sure what the difference is I'm hoping to get some help.

I do have a flash already but wasn't overly pleased with its performance so I might end up getting another one if I need one for this set up.

I'm gonna attach two pictures, kind of blurry as this photographer was in teh background at a wedding I recently attended as a guest. I've seen a lot of photographers around here use the same setup and I haven't had the thought to ask them myself what their setup is as they are working and can never catch them before they leave.
Maybe someone can help me. Of course this guys camera is of the bad N**** word but I suspect there would be a similar set up for the Canon line. Care to help me identifying the pieces for me so I know what to look for?

I don't know if it matters if what purpose its gonna serve but I'm hoping to use it taking portraits or wedding photos in the future.

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Aug 24, 2005 11:01 |  #2

Unfortunately those pictures show how NOT to use a flash bracket. A flash bracket is supposed to move the flash off the camera to increase the angle between the flash and the lens to eliminate red eye, and drop the shadow behind the subject. It is supposed to maintain the relation between the flash and lens in both portrait and landscape position. The flash should not be on the side of the camera. In addition that photographer is using the Onmibounce diffuser outdoors and straight on. It is not particularly effective out of doors, and when used straight on. It is designed to be used indoors at a 45 degree angle to bounce off a white ceiling.
Some commonly use brackets are:
Strobframe Quick Flip, Pro-T, Pro-RL
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Newton- I an currently using the Newton Flash Rotator.


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Aug 24, 2005 11:04 |  #3

Thanks Scott.
Interesting, most of the photographers around here use some sort of setup similar to that, I had no idea it was wrong. Hmmm.
Well I'm gonna do a search on B&H to see if I can find those brackets you mentioned, thank you. And one more question, do I need anything in addition to the bracket, flash and camera, some little accessory to make it all work?


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Aug 24, 2005 11:06 as a reply to  @ TSEE's post |  #4

There is nothing wrong with the set up he has. It's that he is using it incorrectly. :D
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Aug 24, 2005 11:11 |  #5

Ok...so a bracket and a cord...I can do that.
Thanks for your help...I'm off hunting for parts now. LOL


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Aug 24, 2005 11:15 as a reply to  @ TSEE's post |  #6

TSEE wrote:
Ok...so a bracket and a cord...I can do that.
Thanks for your help...I'm off hunting for parts now. LOL

www.newtoncamerabracke​t.com (external link)
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Aug 24, 2005 11:28 |  #7

Thanks for the websites found them and also found some stuff on Amazon.
Thanks a bunch. =o)


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Aug 24, 2005 16:00 |  #8

I have shot many weddings 'in the old days (before digital)' using Medium Format SLR. I settled on the Newton flash bracket because it positioned the flash CENTERED ABOVE the lens in landscape mode, then rotated the flash to STAY CENTERED ABOVE the lens in portrait mode. And unlike many of the cheaper brackets, it was of machined aluminun, making it FAR LIGHTER in weight... a key characteristic when holding 5+ pounds of camera, lens and bracket and flash for hours!


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Aug 24, 2005 16:21 |  #9

lol, the guy obviously doesn't know what he's doing, or he's doing something creative/different with it.

I use a Stroboframe Pro-T, a flip style bracket, it works well for me and is reasonably light weight.


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Aug 24, 2005 19:23 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #10

I use a Stroboframe Pro-T and like it a lot. It's made out of aluminum, so is light and ridged. I found the supplied cork pad didn't work as advertised and allowed the camera to twist, so I made an anti twist plate. If you get a stroboframe, you might want an anti twist plate for the camera.


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Aug 24, 2005 19:35 |  #11

You can get anti-twist plates for most cameras, but if you use a grip you need to use the cork pad supplied or something else you make up yourself. I haven't used my pro-t with a grip yet so i'm not sure how it'll work.


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Aug 27, 2005 01:29 |  #12

The bracket pictured is the Stroboframe Quickflip 350. I have one and its OK -- just not very sturdy. I don't use a bracket that much so it's not worth it to me to spend a lot of money but if I were going to, the Newton brackets are hard to beat. I hear good things about the Custom brackets as well. They are both much higher quality than the Stroboframes.


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Aug 29, 2005 13:52 |  #13

THanks everyone, I did find one on ebay I liked alot I just can't seem to find out what model it is as it isn't specified, its a Stroboframe where you flip the camera withing the bracket and the flash stays positioned in one place the whole time.
I think its called Stroboframe Camera Flip Flash Bracket...seems pretty affordable to me right now. Don't think I could afford the Newton's just yet. I hope the Stroboframe would hold me over til I can afford the Newtons, looks like nice stuff!
Thanks everyone!!!


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Aug 29, 2005 14:17 as a reply to  @ TSEE's post |  #14

Yeah, that's the camera flip. I have one and I don't like it. It's flimsy and when you rotate the camera to portrait the flash stays in landscape orientation so you can get some flash coverage issues. I'll sell you mine if you really want one ;-)a

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Aug 30, 2005 19:27 |  #15

How much would you want for it?
I figured it was a quick and easy one to use since wedding photography is pretty quick paced (at least the 2 that I did) no time to unscrew stuff from one another. Oh does that bracket work if you're using a tripod as well???


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