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Oct 07, 2010 17:16 |  #1

I just stumbled across this article with video that demonstrates the ability to refocus your photos after the fact. I can only imagine what the prefinished photo size could be.

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Oct 07, 2010 17:36 |  #2

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=935670

Posted before but not too many replies, seems like a pretty cool technology, crazy what they come up with




  
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Oct 07, 2010 17:43 |  #3

That is pretty exciting.....


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Oct 11, 2010 14:51 |  #4

I was also pretty interested in this technology, and I found a company that makes these Plenoptic cameras. Its called Raytrix, and you can buy one of their cameras, or send your own in. I don't know if this technology is feasible yet, i'm guessing 5-7 years down the road.


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Oct 13, 2010 10:16 |  #5

What are the 4 dimensions the article describes?


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Oct 18, 2010 01:40 |  #6

So how big would a 70-200mm f2.8L with 15 different light paths, be? How many sensors would I need?


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Oct 18, 2010 12:17 |  #7

This doesn't seem terribly practical to me. I think it'd be easier to just program a camera/lens to take multiple exposures at different focal points, on a tripod.


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Oct 22, 2010 12:47 |  #8

lonelyjew wrote in post #11119559 (external link)
This doesn't seem terribly practical to me. I think it'd be easier to just program a camera/lens to take multiple exposures at different focal points, on a tripod.

It is impractical, but with our current system it's impossible to take multiple exposures at different focal points at the same instant, which is important for shooting anything that moves.

Just think how many times you've missed a great shot because the subject moved outside your depth of field while tracking it. If this lens setup ever reaches meaningful resolutions, you would be able to focus your image in post.


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Nov 09, 2010 17:26 |  #9

Imagine being able to shoot landscapes and macros at f/8, instead of having to stop down any further for increased depth of field... in medium format! No more diffraction worries there!

Or, with 100MP sensors and diffraction limits of f/4 or so, shooting landscapes and macros at f/4 for maximum resolution, without losing DOF.

This technology has great potential!




  
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Nov 14, 2010 04:46 |  #10

In addition, with plenoptic cameras, you can have true tilt-shift methods in postproduction, and decrease DOF; and through zbuffer calculations, it may also be possible to have more sophisticated selective colouring and probably some other things.

I'd say that the absolute mastery of DOF control given by plenoptic lenses will mean that this technology should eventually supplant, say, medium format cameras and tilt-shift lenses.


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Nov 15, 2010 16:14 |  #11

Am I right in assuming that the focus changes are possible because the originals have vitually unlimited DoF and the areas not wanted sharp are simply blurred by the software? I cannot imagine any other way of doing it.


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Nov 15, 2010 17:06 |  #12

Lowner wrote in post #11289654 (external link)
Am I right in assuming that the focus changes are possible because the originals have vitually unlimited DoF and the areas not wanted sharp are simply blurred by the software? I cannot imagine any other way of doing it.

Not quite.

Basically, you take many different images, focused at different distances. In post-production, you can then choose which distances you want in focus, or which region in 3D space (the artificial 'tilt-shift' capability). The OOF areas are real - that is, they are in the RAW file, not just blurred by software; the software merely allows you to choose what the focal plane is and what shape it takes. Via this method, you can even have two focal planes if you want, or get it to follow an uneven surface.

It's a similar concept to volumetric reconstructions in a CT scan, for example.




  
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Nov 17, 2010 06:35 |  #13

Who wants to bet people will still complain their copy front/rear focuses?


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Nov 17, 2010 20:23 |  #14

It is crazy to see where the DSLR has come in the last few years. I wonder what we will be using in twenty years? Tech like this is just the antithesis of where we are going.


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Nov 18, 2010 16:54 |  #15

Quaz8r wrote in post #11303685 (external link)
It is crazy to see where the DSLR has come in the last few years. I wonder what we will be using in twenty years? Tech like this is just the antithesis of where we are going.


What's even more crazy is that the pictures aren't any more pleasing to look at than they were 20 years ago. The basics of what makes a good photo has been there for a long time.


Eventually there will be no point in taking photos as Google will already have taken every picture possible with it's army of robotic flying camera drones.


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