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Oct 13, 2010 07:44 |  #16

Two observations:
3.9.1 had a short life ;-)a
USM without the layers could be no so useful, anyone used it? does it work on JPG or RAW?
I'm curious, maybe this night I will download it.


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Oct 13, 2010 08:07 |  #17

USM is for RAW files only....


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Oct 13, 2010 08:59 |  #18

hsroxas wrote in post #11086527 (external link)
Thanks for this. Now I can use DPP for my G9 raw files. It is one of those models now supported.

Yeh, isn't that strange? If I have this straight (not a G-series expert) the G9 was not previously supported by DPP, but the G10 and G11 were. Now they've gone back and extended support to the G9. Sort of like righting a historic wrong. And who says Canon isn't responsive to the complaints of their customers.


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Oct 13, 2010 09:02 |  #19

It still won't recognize G3 RAW files....oh well...


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Oct 13, 2010 09:42 |  #20

Unfortunately my old Powershot S30 Raw files are still not recognized :-(
May be one day...


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Oct 13, 2010 09:45 |  #21

kitacanon wrote in post #11084439 (external link)
The USM terms are different and the slider set up seems different from PS v.6....

Strength seems more like Radius in that it has greater/coarser effect than
Fineness that acts more like Amount in PS v.6 (nuanced/refined sharpening)

...amd Amount is the top slider in PS v.6 and Radius the middle slider....opposite that of DPP....

Any comments on this?

I don't know. According to the names, Strength is a synonym for Amount and Fineness is exactly what Radius controls - whether the effect is spread over a finer or broader strip of pixels. The problem I see is that radius expressed in pixels is an exact number (well, almost exact even if we don't know the formula for calculating 0.5 pixels) but with DPP's USM the 0-10 scale numbers could mean anything. But it is a very nice upgrade and from the little I have played with it I really like it.


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Oct 13, 2010 11:16 as a reply to  @ tzalman's post |  #22

Thanks for the link, upgraded last night:cool:


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Oct 13, 2010 21:05 |  #23

Just downloaded and installed 3.9.2 and I love it. The RAW tab has more fine tuning capabilities (unsharp mask is great) and the changes are dramatic, yet suble enough for me to really enjoy it.

Oh btw thanks TonyLong!


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Oct 13, 2010 21:28 |  #24

Hey Dan, glad you are up and running and enjoying!


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Oct 13, 2010 23:12 |  #25

My workflow for some time now has been to do the initial RAW processing in DPP and then send it to Photoshop (CS2 in my case) for fine adjustments, resizing, and sharpening.

I've always made sharpening my last step, after resizing. For that matter most of the time I also use the lightness layer in LAB mode for my sharpening. I wonder at what stage of the process the sharpening is applied in DPP? It's not unusual for me to have a file end up in three different sizes and crops and each will have it's own sharpening. I'm thinking the addition of USM is great for those who use only DPP and don't have access to other software?


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Oct 13, 2010 23:29 |  #26

Shellback wrote in post #11093173 (external link)
My workflow for some time now has been to do the initial RAW processing in DPP and then send it to Photoshop (CS2 in my case) for fine adjustments, resizing, and sharpening.

I've always made sharpening my last step, after resizing. For that matter most of the time I also use the lightness layer in LAB mode for my sharpening. I wonder at what stage of the process the sharpening is applied in DPP? It's not unusual for me to have a file end up in three different sizes and crops and each will have it's own sharpening. I'm thinking the addition of USM is great for those who use only DPP and don't have access to other software?

Yup, it's useful for using DPP to actually create a "final copy". The fact that the USM actually is an improvement over the old sharpening tool will make it even easier to consider an image ready to go without resorting to Photoshop.

And, sharpening is like everything else in Raw processing -- it is only applied to an image when doing a conversion, all of it together. In that sense it acts pretty much like a camera does when doing an out-of-camera jpeg, just doing a batch application of White Balance, Picture Style, sharpening, etc.


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Oct 14, 2010 01:45 |  #27

tonylong wrote in post #11093262 (external link)
Yup, it's useful for using DPP to actually create a "final copy". The fact that the USM actually is an improvement over the old sharpening tool will make it even easier to consider an image ready to go without resorting to Photoshop.

And, sharpening is like everything else in Raw processing -- it is only applied to an image when doing a conversion, all of it together. In that sense it acts pretty much like a camera does when doing an out-of-camera jpeg, just doing a batch application of White Balance, Picture Style, sharpening, etc.

Yes, but if you are resizing drastically, like making a small version for posting, the resizing will cause a loss of sharpness, so no matter how good the original looks a second sharpening will be needed. DPP is coming along, but it is still far from the sophistication of LR's size aware output sharpening.


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Oct 14, 2010 02:02 |  #28

tzalman wrote in post #11093904 (external link)
Yes, but if you are resizing drastically, like making a small version for posting, the resizing will cause a loss of sharpness, so no matter how good the original looks a second sharpening will be needed. DPP is coming along, but it is still far from the sophistication of LR's size aware output sharpening.


Thanks for the boost of confidence in LR, looks like I need to pick that up next.

I'm afraid to download the trial version for fear of wanting it badly if I end up loving it. :D


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Oct 14, 2010 02:16 |  #29

Bah! And I just got 3.9.1. Oh well, thanks for the headsup.


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Oct 14, 2010 02:35 |  #30

MOkoFOko wrote in post #11093979 (external link)
Bah! And I just got 3.9.1. Oh well, thanks for the headsup.

You can download 3.9.2 from Canon's website any time you like........


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