Just bought a 1d - problem

photomom2one wrote in post #11095449
so even if the seller says "No returns" on the sale page you still have 45 days?

Check out this tread about a new paypal-ebay policy.
Paypal buyer protection

Mine did say you could return the item within 3 days for a refund excluding the hipping back.

eBay has made it very safe for buyers. For all of you who say you wouldn't trust a seller, eBay has made it very safe for buyers. I'd even go as far to say that if you plan to cheat and be fraudulent on eBay, it would be easier to do it as a buyer than as a seller.

segasaturn wrote in post #11099973
eBay has made it very safe for buyers. For all of you who say you wouldn't trust a seller, eBay has made it very safe for buyers. I'd even go as far to say that if you plan to cheat and be fraudulent on eBay, it would be easier to do it as a buyer than as a seller.

Ehh, more like ebay is covering their own butts to avoid CC chargebacks. Back when ebay/paypal was more strict concerning disputes, a CC chargeback would override them EVERY TIME. All they've done is bring their policy more in line with CC chargeback rules. If the buyer isn't satisfied, the seller has to oblige on a return.

It's been in effect since early 2008-ish...

professorman wrote in post #11096530
Check out this tread about a new paypal-ebay policy.
Paypal buyer protection

Just to clarify that policy for off-eBay transactions does not become effective until November 1 so if this was not bought on eBay (I saw a WTB post by the OP) he isn't covered since he received the item.

K6AZ wrote in post #11100144
Just to clarify that policy for off-eBay transactions does not become effective until November 1 so if this was not bought on eBay (I saw a WTB post by the OP) he isn't covered since he received the item.

Ebay itself barely has any protections--it's paypal that provides the "protection" (which honestly only duplicates CC chargeback protection, but to a lesser extent). Paypal buyer protection covers anyone who makes a non-gifted payment--ebay or not (but I see what you're saying regarding that new rules posting).

No matter the paypal rules, as long as he paid with a CC, he is protected and has the right to return the product for a full refund, within 90 days of purchase (and in some cases--depends on the CC company--up to 6 months). CC will ALWAYS override paypal, no matter what they say.

MOkoFOko wrote in post #11100186
Ebay itself barely has any protections--it's paypal that provides the "protection" (which honestly only duplicates CC chargeback protection, but to a lesser extent). Paypal buyer protection covers anyone who makes a non-gifted payment--ebay or not.

But until November 1 the only issue they will deal with for an item that wasn't bought on eBay is for non-delivery. Also, not everyone has/uses credit cards to fund PayPal purchases.

K6AZ wrote in post #11100205
But until November 1 the only issue they will deal with for an item that wasn't bought on eBay is for non-delivery. Also, not everyone has/uses credit cards to fund PayPal purchases.

Those people reap what they sow I pay the extra 3% when I need to. It pays to be protected. As with everything, it's caveat emptor.

MOkoFOko wrote in post #11100209
Those people reap what they sow I pay the extra 3% when I need to. It pays to be protected. As with everything, it's caveat emptor.

I know people who won't link a credit card on PayPal and it baffles me. I've always used them and one time that saved me from losing $1200 on a bad purchase (not photo related).

I used PP and a linked ccard to pay for the purchase. I never send cash straight up. And I bought the item with the ebay buyer protection that was listed on the auction. That is why I bought it there and it clearly said there was a 3-day return policy.

The seller had great feedback on a forum site and he has been a little difficult to get in touch with. But all in all, he is refunding the money. Really it was great transaction, smooth, I got the item, packaged well. It just did not work. We went back and forth trying different solutions and a couple of approaches. It just did not work out for the two of us.

I received a message from the seller last night; the money should be back in my account on Monday. So hopefully this will be done on Monday. BTW, I will leave the seller good feedback on the forum and on ebay. As long as the money is my account on Monday.

I promptly shipped the item back and contacted the seller as soon as there was a problem. Which was immediately.

I was getting worried because the seller told me he no longer had the money in his account and it would take time to refund the money. Like I said before, I personally would not have removed the money my account until everything checked out okay or the return period had ended.

Again, the refund is coming Monday, so hopefully it will be resolved and I can work on getting another 1d classic.

Interesting post for me anyway so far.

Scott

canons900 wrote in post #11102509
I used PP and a linked ccard to pay for the purchase. I never send cash straight up. And I bought the item with the ebay buyer protection that was listed on the auction. That is why I bought it there and it clearly said there was a 3-day return policy.

The seller had great feedback on a forum site and he has been a little difficult to get in touch with. But all in all, he is refunding the money. Really it was great transaction, smooth, I got the item, packaged well. It just did not work. We went back and forth trying different solutions and a couple of approaches. It just did not work out for the two of us.

I received a message from the seller last night; the money should be back in my account on Monday. So hopefully this will be done on Monday. BTW, I will leave the seller good feedback on the forum and on ebay. As long as the money is my account on Monday.

I promptly shipped the item back and contacted the seller as soon as there was a problem. Which was immediately.

I was getting worried because the seller told me he no longer had the money in his account and it would take time to refund the money. Like I said before, I personally would not have removed the money my account until everything checked out okay or the return period had ended.

Again, the refund is coming Monday, so hopefully it will be resolved and I can work on getting another 1d classic.

Interesting post for me anyway so far.

Scott

As someone who has bought and sold on ebay, let me tell you that that is standard procedure for any rational seller. Paypal disputes--even when not escalated--IMMEDIATELY freeze related funds within the account. Now, a seller who does things right will win disputes most of the time. Disputes usually take 20-30 days to resolve. Now, would the seller want to have paypal hold those funds for 30 days without interest when it would take 2 days to transfer that amount from his bank account? I think not.

You need to look at this from the sellers perspective.

MOkoFOko wrote in post #11102808
As someone who has bought and sold on ebay, let me tell you that that is standard procedure for any rational seller. Paypal disputes--even when not escalated--IMMEDIATELY freeze related funds within the account. Now, a seller who does things right will win disputes most of the time. Disputes usually take 20-30 days to resolve. Now, would the seller want to have paypal hold those funds for 30 days without interest when it would take 2 days to transfer that amount from his bank account? I think not.

You need to look at this from the sellers perspective.

I understand where the seller is coming from. But you also have to look at the fact that he provided a 3 day refund on the listing. Being an ebay seller myself, I myself feel it is best if you offer a return, that you wait until the return period is past before removing the money.

To me it is not worth a poor rating or possible complaints "if" something were to go wrong. Which in this case it did.

I've never been in this position before and so far I am happy with Monday. But when there is a problem with something purchased, I would expect a prompt reply. Especially after we have spoken via phone.

I got stung once and will no longer buy second hand cameras. I'd also think twice before buying a used lens.

David

Many buy used and never have a problem. I've only one this current one. I buy used because I have to. And I buy older equipment.

I know the risk I take and most times there are no problems.

Well, the issue has been resolved. The seller refunded me the money and he said the camera is reporting the Err on the top lcd that I reported to him.

All is well! Now I can purchase the one from the other seller.

Thanks everyone.