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Oct 18, 2010 09:16 |  #16

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did you check what the ISO setting was on?


Hi I had a look at a couple of the shots and they are 100 ISO with Aperture of F9 and shutter of 1/160.


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Oct 18, 2010 09:17 |  #17

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I always try to think of a P&S as a quick, get decent quality images that capture the moment. What I don't expect is shallow DOF conveying a sense of depth and focus in my images or the ability to focus in on the small nuances that can change the feeling of an image.

While I understand that the 500D has the modes such as 'creative' and 'portrait', I would encourage you to read the "Understanding Exposure" book and then practice so that you are comfortable in the M, Tv, and Ap modes where you, the photographer, have more control. Also, get acquainted with DPP from Canon or Lightroom from Adobe to really make those DSLR photos pop in post processing. Think of a DSLR not as a one stop solution for great photos, but as a tool in your toolbox for creating lasting memories.

Yeah I understand that shooting in RAW and doing the PP can greatly enhance images, but I dont want to have to do it in over 400 images from a day out.


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Oct 18, 2010 09:23 |  #18

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Yeah I understand that shooting in RAW and doing the PP can greatly enhance images, but I dont want to have to do it in over 400 images from a day out.

It's kinda pointless to keep this topic going until you post examples from both cameras and what you find wrong about each.


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Oct 18, 2010 09:26 |  #19

"....is there anyway in Creative Auto to set it to focus the whole image and not specific points"??

No. But its possible to select apertures that create a depth of field deep enough to cover the whole group.

Sounds to me as though you are just beginning an exciting voyage of discovery. Point and Shoots are all very well and good, but to take your photography to the next level you have a good camera. It takes a bit more thinking about is all, as the camera relies on the users ability more.


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Oct 18, 2010 10:25 |  #20

neardark wrote in post #11118464 (external link)
Yeah I understand that shooting in RAW and doing the PP can greatly enhance images, but I dont want to have to do it in over 400 images from a day out.

You won't necessarily have to PP every photo from a day out in detail, but doing things such as clarity and vibrance adjustments can really help to make your photos "pop" and adding some contrast is always a good idea as well. These can be done in bulk in a program such as Lightroom and can greatly reduce processing time.

I'm not sure if DPP can do it as well as I don't use that for my post-processing work.


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Oct 18, 2010 10:29 |  #21

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It's kinda pointless to keep this topic going until you post examples from both cameras and what you find wrong about each.

Below the point and shoot

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These were roughly taken at the same spot, as you can see it's quite a difference.

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Oct 18, 2010 10:35 |  #22

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These were roughly taken at the same spot, as you can see it's quite a difference.

Go into the Menu and hit the option that restores everything to it's defaults. That looks over exposed, you might have bumped an exposure adjustment. I have over 2,000 photos from the XS, XSi, T1i, and T2i. None of them look like that.


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Oct 18, 2010 10:35 |  #23

The DSLR appears to be quite overexposed in the photo. I'm not exactly sure what the camera would've been metering on in this picture as it all looks washed out on my screen, but it's not calibrated so don't take my word for it.


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Oct 18, 2010 10:46 |  #24

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Go into the Menu and hit the option that restores everything to it's defaults. That looks over exposed, you might have bumped an exposure adjustment. I have over 2,000 photos from the XS, XSi, T1i, and T2i. None of them look like that.


Yeah this has crossed my mind, I will, but first I will check the exposure settings.


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Oct 18, 2010 11:36 |  #25

SwiftFootTim wrote in post #11118913 (external link)
The DSLR appears to be quite overexposed in the photo. I'm not exactly sure what the camera would've been metering on in this picture as it all looks washed out on my screen, but it's not calibrated so don't take my word for it.

Yeah it is all washed out and it was like this on my tv, most of the images look like this.


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Oct 18, 2010 11:47 |  #26

Its worth checking that you havent knocked something and set the exposure compensation to +1 stop, your shots look over exposed by between 2/3rds a stop and the PS shot looks under exposed by about 1/3 stop.




  
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Oct 18, 2010 11:50 as a reply to  @ iancandler's post |  #27

The camera obviously saw all the dark area by the trees and tried to expose it properly. This blew out the sky.

The P&S exposed the sky properly but the tree area is quite dark.

The camera's metering isn't very smart and can't differentiate between sky and trees, so it took its best guess. This is where YOU need to outsmart the camera and take control. Either avoid high contrast scenes, or recognize when you are in this situation and meter the part of the scene that is important to YOU.




  
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Oct 18, 2010 11:52 |  #28

There is definitely overexposure going on here.

I'd second the exposure compensation - make sure that's not dialled in.

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It doesn't look as if there is a good reason for such overexposure... on that note though... the camera has possibly metered for the shadows.


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Oct 18, 2010 12:05 |  #29

DetlevCM wrote in post #11119396 (external link)
It doesn't look as if there is a good reason for such overexposure... on that note though... the camera has possibly metered for the shadows.

There is a good reason for such overexposure...The camera has metered for the shadows. This is pretty obvious...




  
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Oct 18, 2010 12:08 as a reply to  @ neardark's post |  #30

The shot from the 500D is at least one stop overexposed. Going by the settings neardark posted, in full sun at ISO100, f9, I would expect a shutter speed closer to 1/320-1/400. Being in an auto mode, the camera probably "saw" the shaded trees and exposed for them, while the point and shoot "saw" more of the sky and exposed closer to that.

Pretty cut and dry. Easy to spot in the field if you check the histogram.


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