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Jan 11, 2011 15:56 |  #61

DetlevCM wrote in post #11619680 (external link)
My guess if it's cloudy the sky is nearly pure white, hence the camera drops exposure leading to dark grass.
The human eye has a greater dynamic range than a DSRL sensor.

This is exactly what happens.


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Jan 11, 2011 16:10 |  #62

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This is exactly what happens.

Possible Solutions:
- Buy a camera with greater dynamic range. (Hasselblad? Not sure about Leica...)
- avoid shooting when cloudy
- shoot HDR images

-> alternatively, through trial and error figure out how you can obtain the best balance to edit them to your liking in post processing.


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Jan 11, 2011 16:27 |  #63

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Possible Solutions:
- Buy a camera with greater dynamic range. (Hasselblad? Not sure about Leica...)
- avoid shooting when cloudy
- shoot HDR images

-> alternatively, through trial and error figure out how you can obtain the best balance to edit them to your liking in post processing.

I used to have the same problem with my Panasonic Lumix FZ28. I thought the 500D might have worked in a different way. I usually use Photoshop to fix dark areas in photos, which works, probably 9 out of 10 times.

Don't get me wrong, I think the 500D is a fantastic camera by the way.


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Jan 11, 2011 16:51 |  #64

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I used to have the same problem with my Panasonic Lumix FZ28. I thought the 500D might have worked in a different way. I usually use Photoshop to fix dark areas in photos, which works, probably 9 out of 10 times.

Don't get me wrong, I think the 500D is a fantastic camera by the way.

Shooting RAW or JPEG? JPEG is 8bits no matter what Camera, RAW on the 500D is 14bit (14bit on a 5D MK II is a large step for me compared to 12bit on a 400D)


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Jan 11, 2011 17:08 |  #65

Perhaps you should use a polarizer on your camera to get the sky correctly coloured. Or a ND filter.


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Jan 11, 2011 17:12 |  #66

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Perhaps you should use a polarizer on your camera to get the sky correctly coloured. Or a ND filter.

I don't think a polarizer helps with clouds - at least not in my experience.


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Jan 11, 2011 17:19 |  #67

Yeah I meant a ND. A bit tired and confused at the moment. Either way the OP shouldn't expect quality pictures if he doesn't use his DSLR to its full potential. That is fully manual and photoshop or something else for PP.


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Jan 12, 2011 12:29 |  #68

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Shooting RAW or JPEG? JPEG is 8bits no matter what Camera, RAW on the 500D is 14bit (14bit on a 5D MK II is a large step for me compared to 12bit on a 400D)

I'm using JPEG.

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Yeah I meant a ND. A bit tired and confused at the moment. Either way the OP shouldn't expect quality pictures if he doesn't use his DSLR to its full potential. That is fully manual and photoshop or something else for PP.

I understand that the camera is fully manual. I used to use manual setting quite a lot with my FZ28. When the sky is full of cloud its very difficult to stop the cloud from turning out white. It seems to be a problem that just has to be lived with. The only reason I asked on here was to see if anyone had a solution.


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Jan 12, 2011 12:34 |  #69

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I'm using JPEG.

Aha, first problem :)

-> Shoot RAW and you'll have a greater chance of correcting the issue.


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Jan 12, 2011 12:37 |  #70

Graduated Neutral Density Filter. This will work whether you shoot jpg or raw


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Jan 12, 2011 12:58 |  #71

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I don't think a polarizer helps with clouds - at least not in my experience.

Helps a lot on my 500D :rolleyes:

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Jan 12, 2011 13:01 |  #72

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Helps a lot on my 500D :rolleyes:

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I've not noticed an effect on clouds themselves with a polarizer in the past - I don't think they polarize light during it's reflection, do they?


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Jan 13, 2011 12:17 |  #73

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I've not noticed an effect on clouds themselves with a polarizer in the past - I don't think they polarize light during it's reflection, do they?

I could see it clearly through my Tli tiny viewfinder. It was one of the reasons to get CPL.
Polarizer does to things - saturates sky and increasing contrast of clouds.
Here is the typical article about it with pictures
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Jan 13, 2011 12:26 |  #74

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I could see it clearly through my Tli tiny viewfinder. It was one of the reasons to get CPL.
Polarizer does to things - saturates sky and increasing contrast of clouds.
Here is the typical article about it with pictures
http://www.offrench.ne​t …les/polarizing_​filter.php (external link)

I know about the sky.
As well as shrubbery and water surfaces.
Oxidised or otherwise coated metal surfaces work too (Sheffield Fountain at the Railway Station when the water is turned off)

But I never noticed it on clouds themselves.

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In the link you posted I cannot see a difference in the clouds either - yes, the blue of the sky is darked - but the actual clouds look exactly the same to me.


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Jan 13, 2011 12:45 |  #75

DetlevCM wrote in post #11632843 (external link)
I know about the sky.
As well as shrubbery and water surfaces.
Oxidised or otherwise coated metal surfaces work too (Sheffield Fountain at the Railway Station when the water is turned off)

But I never noticed it on clouds themselves.

Edit:
In the link you posted I cannot see a difference in the clouds either - yes, the blue of the sky is darked - but the actual clouds look exactly the same to me.

Sorry, I'm afraid I can't help you on this one. I'm able to see the difference exactly on clouds every time I took the landscape picture with polarizer. It is my main priority in the shot. I'm rotating CPL until I get clouds view which I like.
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