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Looking for a second flash. Your thoughts?

 
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Oct 21, 2010 00:00 |  #1

Hi everyone. Thanks for taking your time to answer. It has surely been discussed before (as with every other photography subject) but I want some fresh, up to date opinions.

I have a 430ex which works really well. I did some one light studio photoshoot and was fairly happy with the results. Now I want to have a go at a second flash. It will be use primary as a background/hair light. I'm on a tight budget and I was looking for a cheap option that will get the job done. The only constraint is I don't want a slower recycle time than my 430ex.

I was looking at those Yonguo flashes, which one do you recommend? Ettl is not needed. Do you have other option you would suggest?

Thanks for taking your time to answer.


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Oct 21, 2010 00:47 |  #2

YN560. Using it as a background light might require full power so I'm not sure if recycle time would be the same as the 430EX.




  
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Oct 21, 2010 01:01 |  #3

Wouldn't a 465/468 do the job? The 560 is more powerful than a 430ex. I thought I was needing less power for a background light?


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Oct 21, 2010 01:47 |  #4

A 460II would do it. People say go with the 560 because you can use it at half or 1/4 power and it will recharge faster so it should work with your 430EX. You don't need full power on a 560 unless you are trying to blowout the background and make it all white. Even if you use a gel to color the bg I don't think you would need full power. 465/468 is TTL and you don't need that.




  
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Oct 21, 2010 01:55 |  #5

Buy a used 550 EX, it has more power and is somewhat inexpensive now




  
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Oct 21, 2010 02:01 |  #6

Ken Westermann wrote in post #11136717 (external link)
Buy a used 550 EX, it has more power and is somewhat inexpensive now

I was looking for one and they are still $200. A new yongnuo is like $50-75. Yeah, the Canon is much better and you probably do get what you pay for. If you will spend $200 then maybe get a studio monolight and use 430EX for bg/hair light. Rivest, do you have price you want to pay? If you want to spend $100 then few choices, but if it's more then you have more to choose from.




  
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Oct 21, 2010 06:34 |  #7

Rivest wrote in post #11136524 (external link)
Wouldn't a 465/468 do the job? The 560 is more powerful than a 430ex. I thought I was needing less power for a background light?

they will do the job or even the cheaper YN460 or YN460 II
I've had the YN-460 for a year and it works great as a manual flash




  
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Oct 21, 2010 06:54 |  #8

Ken Westermann wrote in post #11136717 (external link)
Buy a used 550 EX, it has more power and is somewhat inexpensive now

550ex recharge time is slow as balls

the yn560 is the best choice

the yn460-II would also be great if you're only using it as a background light


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Oct 21, 2010 07:43 |  #9

blocks wrote in post #11136700 (external link)
A 460II would do it. People say go with the 560 because you can use it at half or 1/4 power and it will recharge faster so it should work with your 430EX. You don't need full power on a 560 unless you are trying to blowout the background and make it all white. Even if you use a gel to color the bg I don't think you would need full power. 465/468 is TTL and you don't need that.


Actually, when you gel a background you need less power. If not, you lose te color of the gel. A lower power setting will produce more color from the gel.


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Oct 21, 2010 10:14 |  #10

Seems like the 560 is the way to go. It's double the price of a 460, is it worth it?


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Oct 21, 2010 10:23 |  #11

Tharaka wrote in post #11137359 (external link)
550ex recharge time is slow as balls

the yn560 is the best choice

the yn460-II would also be great if you're only using it as a background light

I think most shoe mounted flash units have sloooow recycle times.

I'm still using my 550EX's, along with two 580EX II's but they are not cranked out to full power, and thus the recycle times are good. I could have used 430's but would have the power cranked up to where the recycle time becomes an issue. I got a deal for two 550EX's recently on Craigslist for $300 and they were in boxes looking near brand new.

I think a good reason to get a flash with more power then you need is that you can back the power down and get good recycle times.




  
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Oct 21, 2010 10:29 |  #12

Well, using eneloop in my 430ex, the recycle speed I get is plenty fast for me, even at full power. I'm not burst shooting in the studio :p


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Oct 21, 2010 10:29 |  #13

Tharaka wrote in post #11137359 (external link)
the yn460-II would also be great if you're only using it as a background light

actually you can use the Yongnuo YN460 as a secondary or primary light - it just doesn't have ETTL




  
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Oct 21, 2010 10:33 |  #14

Does it have enough power/fast recovery times?


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Oct 21, 2010 11:21 as a reply to  @ Rivest's post |  #15

Have you looked at the Nissin Di866?? One hell of a flash for the price..


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