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BlackRapid FastenR-T1 WARNING!

 
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Oct 21, 2010 01:03 |  #1

UPDATE on page 2:

Update #2 on page 5

Fix update on page 11

The FastenR-T1 is 1mm too deep and will not allow the RC2 QR plate to mount solidly on a tripod; my camera and lens went crashing to the ground tonight because of this. I've returned my RC2 plates to their original mounting d-ring and will be taking my T1s back to BR. vmad

Side by side, you can see the 1mm 'lip' spacer that the T1 is machined into it compared to the original Manfrotto design. T1 on the left, original on the right.

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I am livid and stunned that BR couldn't be bothered to actually try mounting this combination TO a tripod for the system that they were releasing this for. It took 5min for me to figure out that this didn't fit after my gear went for a dive...

I can't get a side by side comparison with a ruler to show the 1mm difference at the moment as I don't have enough arms or good mount for setting it up. There is a small recess on the underside of the RC2 plate that allows the head of the bolt, on the original to seat into the plate and make room to mate to the tripod body; that spacer on the T1 prevents the head from seating down properly and therefore prevents a solid mounting.

If you've already purchased and received the T1, you can check this for yourself and I urge you to do so before EVER trying this on your tripod.

With the T1 connector on an RC2 qr plate you can rock the gear front to back with the tripod lock in place and remove the entire unit without unlocking the plate. A CRITICAL failure, in my opinion, for BR and I sincerely hope that they respond in an appropriate manner when I get a hold of them. :(

This took place using a Manfotto 055ProBX + 488RC2 ballhead; RC2 quick release plate, 7D and 100-400L.

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Oct 21, 2010 01:16 |  #2

Does the QR plate not lock into the clamp properly? Surely you can see this straight away when you push the bare plate into the clamp?

So more super-high-quality BR design? ;)




  
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Oct 21, 2010 01:23 |  #3

phreeky wrote in post #11136597 (external link)
Does the QR plate not lock into the clamp properly? Surely you can see this straight away when you push the bare plate into the clamp?

So more super-high-quality BR design? ;)

Correct; the QR plate does NOT lock in to the clamp with this connector in place.

Unfortunately, I was attempting to shoot the moon at the time so it wasn't visually apparent that there wasn't a proper lock :(


- Eric S.: My Birds/Wildlife (external link) (7D MkII/5D IV, Canon 10-22 f/3.5-4.5, Canon 24-105L f/4 IS, Canon 70-200L f/2.8 IS MkII, Canon 100-400L f/4.5-5.6 IS I/II)
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Oct 21, 2010 01:31 |  #4

I checked mine and it clamps into place with just a little force to ensure the locking lever actually engages. Maybe if I have time tomorrow, I'll take mine apart and measure with calipers.


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Oct 21, 2010 01:38 as a reply to  @ ocabj's post |  #5

Please do, because I can't get any of my 3 plates to lock in with that setup and any amount of pressure.


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Oct 21, 2010 04:45 |  #6

Another member had the same problem

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=947047

Is there another version of the Manfrotto 200PL-14 like an old and new ?


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Oct 21, 2010 06:55 |  #7

Well Manfrotto have slightly changed some of their designs and not changed part/model numbers, so I wouldn't be surprised if they've done the same for that QR plate. Do some versions of the plates not have a hole large enough for the "lip" to sit inside?




  
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Oct 21, 2010 07:20 as a reply to  @ phreeky's post |  #8

Thanks for the heads up . I've got one on order and will check it out when it arrives .

Did any of your gear get damaged ? I would hope BR looks after this and your gear if the result is design flaw .




  
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Oct 21, 2010 07:42 as a reply to  @ nitehawk55's post |  #9

I just put mine together today and it works fine on my MF 498RC2. But I would like to Thank you for the heads up and I will make sure I check it often for any problem.


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Oct 21, 2010 07:53 as a reply to  @ Flytyer's post |  #10

Just checked again. My RC2 has a bigger hole and that lip fits inside the hole in the RC2. You do not show a hole on your plate. I do believe there is an older model of the RC2 and that is maybe what you have.


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Oct 21, 2010 08:08 |  #11

Out of curiosity, does the T1 sit flush with the RC2 plate when you look at it from the side? Or is the 'hub' protruding out the bottom of the plate? When I look at mine from the side, it appears perfectly flush.


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Oct 21, 2010 08:25 as a reply to  @ ocabj's post |  #12

Mine look just like the OEM one.

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Oct 21, 2010 09:00 |  #13

post pics of your plate! Maybe it's a plate issue!


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Oct 21, 2010 09:24 |  #14

and hence, i like to keep my mounting plates as mounting plates and my camera strap as camera strap...

sorry to hear about your misfortune Eric.


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Oct 21, 2010 09:53 |  #15

Considering how often your gear hits the ground it might just be safer for you to shoot prone. How many times has it been now?


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