Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
Thread started 27 Oct 2010 (Wednesday) 08:48
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

7d exposure consistancy?

 
sWampy
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
331 posts
Joined Sep 2006
Location: Mississippi
     
Oct 27, 2010 09:53 |  #16

PhotoByED wrote in post #11174230 (external link)
Must be the old magnetic ballast in the lights. Tell them to upgrade to electronic ballast T8's.....

Or just set your WB manually to florescent or correct in post.

Doesn't work to manually fix when one half is good, other half isn't. Turning off auto-iso seems to have pretty much eliminated it.


400D, 50D, 7D, 550ex, 420ex, 380ex, 50mm f/1.4, 17-85 EFS, 70-200 L f/2.8, 28-70 L f/2.8, 100-400L http://www.melodysphot​os.com (external link)
http://www.facebook.co​m/melodysphotos (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sixsixfour
Goldmember
Avatar
1,781 posts
Likes: 26
Joined May 2007
Location: Orange County, CA
     
Oct 27, 2010 10:05 |  #17

looks like the flourescent light problem to me.


Canon 7D / 50D / 30D / SL1 / XT

My photography-related addiction makes a crack habit look like a fiscally responsible pasttime.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeamSpeed
01010100 01010011
Avatar
40,862 posts
Gallery: 116 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8923
Joined May 2002
Location: Midwest
     
Oct 27, 2010 10:58 |  #18

turning off auto-iso is not going to fix your problem, unless your shutter speeds also changed....

check this out...
http://photo.stackexch​ange.com …ighting-and-shutter-speed (external link)
http://blog.tommyimage​s.com …r-fluorescent-lights.html (external link)


Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery (external link) My Business Gallery (external link)
"Man only has 5 senses, and sometimes not even that, so if they define the world, the universe, the dimensions of existence, and spirituality with just these limited senses, their view of what-is and what-can-be is very myopic indeed and they are doomed, now and forever."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sWampy
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
331 posts
Joined Sep 2006
Location: Mississippi
     
Oct 27, 2010 11:04 |  #19

TeamSpeed wrote in post #11174593 (external link)
turning off auto-iso is not going to fix your problem, unless your shutter speeds also changed....

check this out...
http://photo.stackexch​ange.com …ighting-and-shutter-speed (external link)
http://blog.tommyimage​s.com …r-fluorescent-lights.html (external link)

Well I took 300 more after turning it off, and none showed the problem to any real extent, some had white balance off, but that is expected, none of the banded images.


400D, 50D, 7D, 550ex, 420ex, 380ex, 50mm f/1.4, 17-85 EFS, 70-200 L f/2.8, 28-70 L f/2.8, 100-400L http://www.melodysphot​os.com (external link)
http://www.facebook.co​m/melodysphotos (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeamSpeed
01010100 01010011
Avatar
40,862 posts
Gallery: 116 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8923
Joined May 2002
Location: Midwest
     
Oct 27, 2010 11:06 |  #20

sWampy wrote in post #11174626 (external link)
Well I took 300 more after turning it off, and none showed the problem to any real extent, some had white balance off, but that is expected, none of the banded images.

What were the shutter speeds? Again, if you use the correct shutter speeds, you won't see the issue. ISO is not the issue, your shutter speeds are and the white balance settings are as well, but if you shoot in raw, you can correct for some of this in post later. In any case, if you have it solved, great! It is still good to understand how messed up CFLs can be for photography and how to deal with it.


Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery (external link) My Business Gallery (external link)
"Man only has 5 senses, and sometimes not even that, so if they define the world, the universe, the dimensions of existence, and spirituality with just these limited senses, their view of what-is and what-can-be is very myopic indeed and they are doomed, now and forever."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Poe
Goldmember
Avatar
1,956 posts
Likes: 15
Joined Oct 2005
Location: Modesto, CA
     
Oct 27, 2010 11:16 |  #21

It's an issue with the timing of the shutter curtains and their speed relative to the frequency of the light pulses from the flourescent lights. The photos look like what happens when you use a faster shutter speed than the x-sync for a flash pulse.



Nikon D750, D7200 | Nikon-Nikkor 14-24G, 60G Micro, 70-300E | SIGMA 35A, 105 OS, 24-105 OS | ZEISS Distagon 2.0/25 Classic, Apo-Distagon 1.4/55 Otus, Apo-Planar 1.4/85 Otus, Makro-Planar 2/100 Classic, Apo-Sonnar 2/135 Classic

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jwcdds
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
15,747 posts
Gallery: 1929 photos
Best ofs: 8
Likes: 10218
Joined Aug 2004
Location: Santa Monica, CA
     
Oct 27, 2010 11:30 |  #22

sWampy wrote in post #11174626 (external link)
Well I took 300 more after turning it off, and none showed the problem to any real extent, some had white balance off, but that is expected, none of the banded images.

As many have pointed out, this is an issue with high shutter speed + fluorescent lighting. Anything faster than 1/100s (and I'd even argue faster than 1/60s) will increase the likelihood of you catching the light during a bad phase. That doesn't mean that every-so-often, you won't get a nice, clean, evenly-lit shot at 1/500s or 1/1000s.

Our eyes are not sensitive enough to catch the flickering of the lights, but the camera shutters are more than capable of doing so.

What were your settings when you took the camera off auto ISO? Because I seriously doubt the next 300 perfect images were at 1/500s.


Julian
Gear/Feedbacks | SmugMug (external link) | Flickr (external link) | Blog (external link) | Instagram (external link) | YouTube (external link)
My Reviews | "The Mighty One" (external link) | "EF 85mm f/1.4 L IS Review" (external link)
Founding member and President of the BOGUS Photo Club (Blatantly-Over-Geared & Under-Skilled)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
apersson850
Obviously it's a good thing
Avatar
12,730 posts
Gallery: 35 photos
Likes: 679
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Traryd, Sweden
     
Oct 27, 2010 12:27 |  #23

jwcdds wrote in post #11174766 (external link)
(and I'd even argue faster than 1/60s)

That's the point. In this part of the world we use 50Hz, so 1/50s would be long enough to catch one full period of the AC, with two zero crossings and two peaks at 325V (absolute value). The exact numbers differ for different electrical systems - these values are correct here - but the principle is the same everywhere.


Anders

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jwcdds
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
15,747 posts
Gallery: 1929 photos
Best ofs: 8
Likes: 10218
Joined Aug 2004
Location: Santa Monica, CA
     
Oct 27, 2010 12:36 |  #24

I have a X-ray viewbox where I often will take old X-rays forwarded by other dentists, take photos of it, and then import into the patient's digital charts. (I've found doing so to be much faster than scanning.) And of course the viewbox uses fluorescent tubes and I have to set the camera to 1/60s. Thank goodness for the IS on my 100L. :lol:

A couple of years ago, when I started doing this, I'd run into the same issues as the photos posted by the OP. That's when I learned about how crappy fluorescent tubes are for photography.


Julian
Gear/Feedbacks | SmugMug (external link) | Flickr (external link) | Blog (external link) | Instagram (external link) | YouTube (external link)
My Reviews | "The Mighty One" (external link) | "EF 85mm f/1.4 L IS Review" (external link)
Founding member and President of the BOGUS Photo Club (Blatantly-Over-Geared & Under-Skilled)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

3,926 views & 0 likes for this thread, 13 members have posted to it.
7d exposure consistancy?
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Frankie Frankenberry
1867 guests, 141 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.