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1D Mark II - Motorsport Personal Functions

 
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Oct 27, 2010 15:31 |  #1

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Any advice on Personal functions for motorsport in the UK - GT, GT3 and Fun Cup.

I will be using 1.4x Extender with a 70-200mm f/2.8L and shooting RAW in daylight.

I am going with the Sports Illustrated Custom Functions and do the majority of the work in the "studio".


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Oct 29, 2010 08:49 |  #2

Did the FIA GT's in Portugal a few weeks back (see website/flickr for examples) ... I "only" use a 50D for this work and I still tend to shoot JPG for most of my motorsports, so I have to get it pretty much right in camera rather than relying on lots of PP corrections ... my advice, just shoot the action mate, experiment and take earplugs, as these things are seriously about the loudest things you will spectate at ;)


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Nov 04, 2010 04:52 |  #3

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I found this - Very comprehensive. It definitely answered all my questions.

GETTING THE MOST FROM YOUR EOS-1 CLASS DIGITAL SLR

http://www.usa.canon.c​om …/Handling/EOS_D​igital.pdf (external link)

C.Fn 4-1 Rules!

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Nov 04, 2010 05:13 as a reply to  @ Arte Automobilistica's post |  #4

I shoot GT1 too, along with a lot of other endurance calendars throughout Europe. My first piece of advice is to forget RAW. Its too big a file and too slow. If your shooting for yourself and have all the time in the world to wait for it to dump and then want to play with afterwards fine but for web or print, you dont need RAW.


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Nov 04, 2010 22:53 |  #5

Coops wrote in post #11222482 (external link)
I shoot GT1 too, along with a lot of other endurance calendars throughout Europe. My first piece of advice is to forget RAW. Its too big a file and too slow. If your shooting for yourself and have all the time in the world to wait for it to dump and then want to play with afterwards fine but for web or print, you dont need RAW.

Why not shoot RAW? The reasons about "all the time in the world to wait" isn't exactly valid considering tools like Lightroom and Aperture. File Size? Storage is so cheap now that cannot make a difference any longer. How about shooting an image that is great, a legacy image, that you want to print or make an adjustment to? There are certainly other reasons like JPG quality from external software beats the camera every time. Many more.

I shoot assignment / deadline work and every shot gets looked at. Once selects are made a simple click of a mouse outputs JPGs if that whats needed.

I consider the attitude of don't shoot RAW to be equivalent to the Earth is flat argument.

arte the SI setting are a good jumping off point - get used to Cf20, sometimes it pays to vary the refocus speed in AI Servo depending on needs.


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Nov 05, 2010 10:17 |  #6

I lean towards what Coops said TBH on the space requirements thing ... for everything else I do indeed shoot raw, but for motorsports I still tend to shoot JPEG 95% of the time.
I switch to raw usually if I know its gonna be a tricky capture or I am going to have to work it more in PP, or when I am in the pit area, or if I know its going to be a low number of shots / not many chances to get a shot possibly combined with a fairly good chance of very high keeper rate.

My main reason? ... well, I dunno about anyone else but at a full 3 day racing event I can produce a good couple of thousand shots, and at ~20MB per raw file, that is a large chunk of disk space in anyone's money.
Maybe my maths are deceiving me as I am ill today, but in my case we would be talking ~40GB for RAW files versus ~7GB for the same thing in JPG. Then you have to factor in another 40GB for my RAID 0/mirrored hard drive, plus two more chunks of 40GB on the backup drives have (onsite and offsite).
So ... whilst yes disc space is relatively cheap, its not that cheap that I don't stop to think about a net difference between the two in the region of 130GB every time I do a weekends shooting :)

The other consideration you have to have is how many the memory cards you own or will need for one days' shooting ...

I also think Coops statement about "all the time in the world to dump" relates to dumping from camera to memory, not at home on the computer.
On most DSLRs the transfer rate from Camera to card is still a bottleneck, so burst shooting with raw even on the fastest cameras and memory cards starts to hit a limit way quicker than it does when shooting jpg.
Guess this though heavily depends your kit, how and what you shoot and how the bust limit, etc affects you ...
I find my use of burst rates does not generally go beyond the capability of what raw could dump to the card before I would want to shoot again ... but I do like the buffer JPEG gives me over raw.

Its all horses for coarses at the end of the day IMHO ... really depends on your needs, kit, budget, skill, requirements, target media and audience, shooting conditions, and of course your desire to sit editing your photos to the nth degree once you get back to base ;)


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