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Chances of getting a bum 3rd party lens?

 
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Aug 30, 2005 11:59 |  #1

I just purchased a Rebel XT body and I'd like to get the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 as my walkabout lens. I'm considering the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 also.

Just what are the odds that I get a bum copy and not a keeper on the first buy? I'm asking because I keep seeing posts in almost every thread about comparable lenses where somebody got a dud copy (or 2 in a row) before getting one that doesn't front focus at full wide or have edge blur throughtout the entire focal range.

I'm new to the DSLR scene, but not to the SLR scene. I've used only Canon lenses in the past and never 3rd party, but I'm looking to get the most bang for my buck as I build up my gear again.

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Aug 30, 2005 12:14 |  #2

IMHO it doesn't matter which brand you buy there is always a small chance you'll get a bad copy. I don't think Canon's QC is any better than Sigma's for example. The thing to remember is that bad copies get shouted about a lot on internet forums and it blows the whole thing out of proportion. I think the key thing is to buy from a reputable dealer who won't quibble if you need to make a return.




  
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Aug 30, 2005 12:20 as a reply to  @ nitsch's post |  #3

nitsch wrote:
IMHO it doesn't matter which brand you buy there is always a small chance you'll get a bad copy. I don't think Canon's QC is any better than Sigma's for example. The thing to remember is that bad copies get shouted about a lot on internet forums and it blows the whole thing out of proportion. I think the key thing is to buy from a reputable dealer who won't quibble if you need to make a return.

Yes, that makes sense as I have had my share of bad Canon copies over the years.

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Aug 30, 2005 12:34 |  #4

most people dont get dud copies, they just dont know how to use them. with most modern production facilities and QC bad copies are rare with the big names. You get what you pay for in glass.


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Aug 30, 2005 12:37 |  #5

Nitsch and Dante give make very sound comments. Assume a good copy unless shown otherwise.




  
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Aug 30, 2005 12:39 |  #6

I take a neutral view and kinda expect to see regular problems reported with both Canon and Sigma. You see fewer from Tamron and hardly any from Tokina. I do wonder how amny are user error and how many real problems. Who knows?

Nitsch is spot on and we'll no doubt see some reports of problems in this thread, many of which are churned out a semi-constant basis of examples of ... whatever.

Last week, after a period of bashing a specific Sigma model I posted a poll for owners or past owners. To date 31 owners are delighted and the only 3 anti's had never even owned the lens!! This is what happens. People are biased. Some feel they have to save buyers from the 3rd party devil.

I've owned more Sigma's than Canon's, but for no reason other than the ones I've bought have offered better or similar performance and higher value and equal resale value. At the longer zoom range I have two Canon L's because they offer better performance and value ... and because they have IS. Sigma has one OS lens. If their 100-300 f4 had OS I would possibly buy that instead.

Do the research, ask for owners views, be clear about your budget and buy what you feel is right.

One thing to bear in mind. I have been very impressed with Sigma customer service here in the UK. When I've emailed about some old lenses and compatibility with newer DSLR's they've be responsive and honest. I sent my Sigma in to be checked as I felt it could do better wide open at 24mm and they said up to 21 days. I received it back max. 10 days later and it seems fine now. No charge of course.

Both the Sigma and Tamron are fine lenses. If you want a Canon then spend 3 times the price. It's a fine lens too and as you'll find from posts over the last few months you're not guarenteed anything going that route either.

Good luck ...


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Aug 30, 2005 15:28 as a reply to  @ condyk's post |  #7

I agree with Dante King, to me a bad copy is rare, people maybe expect to much, or are not using the lens to its best capabilites. You only have to look at the number of threads 'is my 24-70 L a good one'.
With regards to third party lenses, I thought I would never move away from Canon, but the Sigma EX lenses are excellent.


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Aug 30, 2005 16:41 |  #8

You might see "is my lens a dud" threads. However, no one is going to make a thread if their lens is working fine. If everyone did make one, the forum would be so overloaded with those threads.

A dud happens from time to time, but sometimes some threads are user error.


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Aug 31, 2005 03:58 |  #9

Also take a look at this poll among Tamron 28-75/2.8 users whether their first copy of the lens was ok:
First copy of your Tamron 28-75/2.8 XR DI OK?

I truly believe in self-fulfilling prophecies. If a certain lens is rumored to be soft or have QC issues, then everybody who gets one will perform some tests and do so with a suspicious attitude. And if anything looks slightly wrong, it will be cause for alarm.

That's also what the dealer selling me my (slightly soft :wink: ) copy of my Tamron 28-75/2.8 said with a sigh when I asked him the same question.

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