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How can I tell if My lens if not defected?

 
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Nov 04, 2010 00:18 |  #1

I just brought a new tamron 17-50 from B&H. However I've been reading few posts that warn sometime a brand new lens can come off alignment/off focus or something like that ( note: I'm new to photography and on this forum).

I tried to do the search to locate what I've read and also to see if there is a low- tech way to test if my lens is in good condition. Unfortunately I came up empty.
I apologize to start a new thread, but do appreciate if any fellow POTNers can help.

Thank you in advance.


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Nov 04, 2010 02:48 |  #2

I'm assuming you're talking about its auto focus and whether it's focusing properly or not. If that is your question, try putting the camera on a tripod. Lay a ruler or yard stick on the kitchen counter and set the camera a few feet back, above the ruler and pointed down at about a 45 degree angle. With the largest aperture possible, focus on a number and take a picture. Review the image and see if the number that you focused on is sharp or not. This is a great way to see where the lens is focusing and also to test DOF.


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Nov 04, 2010 04:40 |  #3

I did this about a week ago with my lens. I thought it was off, turns out it's just me.




  
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Nov 04, 2010 07:54 |  #4

Go out and take pictures. Come back, look at them, you'll know if something isn't working because they won't be in focus. It's pretty easy.


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Nov 04, 2010 08:02 |  #5

theextremist04 wrote in post #11222942 (external link)
Go out and take pictures. Come back, look at them, you'll know if something isn't working because they won't be in focus. It's pretty easy.

Yep, pretty much sums it up.
Also don't pixel peep.
Pixel peeping will drive you nuts - you'll end up tearing your hair out.
You'll find "problems" that aren't there and the more you look for something wrong, the more you'll find.
The reality is that 99.9% of the time, there is actually nothing wrong.


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Nov 04, 2010 08:35 |  #6

theextremist04 wrote in post #11222942 (external link)
Go out and take pictures. Come back, look at them, you'll know if something isn't working because they won't be in focus. It's pretty easy.

+1

The type of errors that matter will be apparent in your photographs.

Do not fall into the trap off looking at 100% crops and pixel peeping - these are looking for minuscule errors that don't really matter unless you are blowing an image up to the size of a billboard!


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Nov 04, 2010 09:46 |  #7

I agree that you want to get out and shoot rather than obsess as to whether a lens "might be bad" just because of things you read on the interwebs.

There can be a reason to run things through a decent test, like if in your shooting you really see a possible problem, or to understand how to get the most out of your gear, just don't get caught up in things!

If you are serious about evaluating things, there are some ideas here:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=857871


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Nov 04, 2010 10:12 |  #8

theextremist04 wrote in post #11222942 (external link)
Go out and take pictures. Come back, look at them, you'll know if something isn't working because they won't be in focus. It's pretty easy.

philwillmedia wrote in post #11222985 (external link)
Yep, pretty much sums it up.
Also don't pixel peep.
Pixel peeping will drive you nuts - you'll end up tearing your hair out.
You'll find "problems" that aren't there and the more you look for something wrong, the more you'll find.
The reality is that 99.9% of the time, there is actually nothing wrong.

This is good advice. Pixel peepers find problems where there are none ;) But in the entirely possible event that you're still going to take a peek anyway, there are two things you can check.

The first (possible) problem is lens alignment when not all the elements are centered correctly. This can happen in manufacture, and is also the most likely problem if a lens gets dropped. I would always do this test when buying a second-hand lens, and the problem shows up most clearly as one or more corners of the image being noticeably softer than the others. You can do the whole thing in under one minute once you get the hang of it. Lens hire firms use this test when lenses are returned.

Check this by selecting a distant subject (to minimise focusing errors) like a road sign or car number plate, in good light. Shoot at lowest f/number and a high shutter speed to avoid any shake, and lock everything in manual so that nothing can change. Take four pictures with the target positioned in each corner of the frame, and make sure the target is exactly the same distance from the edge in each case, as that will make a difference. Also ensure that the light doesn't change between shots as if the sun goes behind a cloud it will make a big difference to apparent sharpness.

If your camera has a good LCD, zoom in on that and check to see if all four corners are all the same. Don't expect to see a high level of sharpness here, because you will not - this is a tough test. What you are looking for is an equal level of sharpness (or unsharpness). If you have to look twice and keep comparing one corner against anhother, there's no problem - if there is, it will be immediately obvious. And don't get too hung up about it - how often is an important part of the subject right in the corner?

The other thing is AF accuracy. The important thing here is not to shoot too close, which is what most folks do in order to see any errros more clearly. All AF systems work to a tolerance, and accuracy varies according to both focal length and focusing distance, so you have to set the best compromise. The problem with shooting close is that lenses are just not designed to be optimum in that situation (unless they're macros) and it's quite likely that there might be a small issue there which does not exist at normal shooting range, and probably doesn't matter much anyway.

The danger is that if you use AF microadjust to correct a close distance error, you will throw it out at normal shooting range. Canon receommends 50x focal length for AF adjustment, but at least 25x should be okay. But in any case, don't go under 3ft. I use this target in my kitchen, and it's as good as anything else costing hundreds of dollars :) Just make sure everything is set up square and position the center AF point close to the rule, say over the 'ta' in this case.

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Nov 04, 2010 10:32 as a reply to  @ Hoppy1's post |  #9

Look,, you are driving yourself nuts even before you give your lens a good work out.. Doing this results in a desease called "Imaginitis" -- you'll imagine things that aren't really there..

Now,, stop reading photography forums ,,, go out and use the bloody thing!!


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Nov 04, 2010 12:12 |  #10

Here is a good article with multiple stepwise instructions.
Take a look and see.
http://www.bobatkins.c​om …nical/testing_l​enses.html (external link)


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Nov 04, 2010 12:25 |  #11

Tee Why wrote in post #11224255 (external link)
Here is a good article with multiple stepwise instructions.
Take a look and see.
http://www.bobatkins.c​om …nical/testing_l​enses.html (external link)

My computer is giving me some scary virus alert messages from that site. Never had a problem with Bob Atkins before :eek:


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Nov 04, 2010 18:05 |  #12

Thank you for all the good advice. I'll read thru them all and learn through the steps (wisdoms) of your inputs.
Cheers


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Nov 06, 2010 01:44 |  #13

Hoppy1 wrote in post #11224346 (external link)
My computer is giving me some scary virus alert messages from that site. Never had a problem with Bob Atkins before :eek:

No problems with the link for me.
I'm using google chrome on PC windows 7


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Nov 06, 2010 22:20 |  #14

Hoppy1 wrote in post #11224346 (external link)
My computer is giving me some scary virus alert messages from that site. Never had a problem with Bob Atkins before :eek:

No probs for me either (just checked again). Using PC, Google, Vista Home Premium
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