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Nov 04, 2010 01:45 |  #1

I have an image of a city skyline taken with a wide angle lens. The buildings were leaning at the edges of the shot, so in LR3 I use the lens corrections to tilt it back so they're vertical. Looks much better.

I decided to play with the shot some more in PS, so did the cmd-E to edit in PS, but when it opens in PS the lens corrections are gone. It appears all other settings/changes I made in LR have stayed, just not the tilt.

I got around it by exporting as TIFF then just opening that manually in PS. All good.

Just that I thought the "edit in" should maintain all settings and changes I made in LR?

Anyone else found this? Does it happen with any other settings other than lens corrections?


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Nov 04, 2010 01:55 |  #2

What version PS? Are you trying to open as smart object?
In that case: No pop up messages?

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Nov 04, 2010 01:58 |  #3

I don't have a clue, another similar thread was started just a bit ago. Is there a chance you opened it as a Smart Object? I don't have a clue, just poking -- you may need to check in and ask in the Ligthroom Users Forum!


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Nov 04, 2010 02:17 |  #4

I tried both just the standard edit in PS and also the smart object one. Same thing in both cases.

I'm using CS4 PS.

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Nov 04, 2010 10:29 |  #5

I just tried LR3 -> CS5 hitting ctrl-e and it included the lens correction.

Perhaps it's a CS4 issue. Or a mac issue (I'm using a pc).


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Nov 04, 2010 11:11 |  #6

CS4 can read the XMP editing instructions generated by Lightroom 3 but it cannot execute those like Lens Correction, since it wasn't designed with such compatibility in mind.


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Nov 04, 2010 11:15 |  #7

I use LR3 and CS5 on my Mac. I created a new "Edit in..." preset to use CS4. I opened a RAW shot with a 15mm fisheye and applied Lens Correction in LR3. I right-clicked the image and chose "Edit In > Photoshop CS4" (the new Edit In preset I just made). First, LR presented me with the dialog that gives me the choice of "Edit copy with Lightroom Adjustments" - the other two (edit a copy and edit original are grayed out). I accepted this choice and LR rendered the RAW to a TIFF (as I specified in my preset and confirmed in this dialog window) and the TIFF opened in CS4 with the Lens Correction intact.

Not sure what to tell you. CS5 is the "default" Photoshop choice in LR on my machine, and it sounds like CS4 is the default on your machine - do you get the dialog box when you choose to edit in Photoshop that permits you to specify whether you edit a copy with lightroom edits, a copy without lightroom edits or the original?

Maybe try making your own preset for Edit In - and specify Photoshop CS4. Maybe creating your own preset external editor will prevent LR from using the default behavior it has set up for CS4, a default behavior that may be throwing away info, or at least not asking you what you want to edit. Since CS4 has no support for lens corrections, you probably need to edit a file in CS4 that has those corrections "baked in" - i.e., a TIFF that gets rendered in LR and sent to CS4.


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Nov 04, 2010 12:26 |  #8

Shouldn't LR pop up that "dialog that gives the choice of "Edit copy with Lightroom Adjustments"" only when using a SO, since the file is then passed to ACR?
I'd guess (hope) that the LR engine were used otherwise, just like a "normal" export. It is the same as exporting to the same folder with "add to catalog" ticked after all...


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Nov 04, 2010 12:47 |  #9

I'm not at my photo workstation with LR, but isn't the "Edit copy with LR Adjustments" the only choice available for Raw images not done as Smart Objects (it creates a tiff/psd with the adjustments and keeps it in the Library)? I don't know how the Smart Objects function works between LR3 and CS5 I should say -- with LR3 and CS3, a tiff/psd is also created, which is different from using Smart Objects out of ACR -- if you double-click the Smart Object layer in PS the tiff opens in ACR, so that's kind of clunky.

Anyway, the tiff/psd should have kept the lens correction because it has been applied to the image when creating the tiff/jpsd.


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Nov 04, 2010 17:54 |  #10

I tried what Kirk suggested, and here's what I found.

Using the "in-built" preset to edit the RAW file in CS4 doesn't give that option box to edit with LR adjustments.

If I first export to a TIFF file, then use that same edit in CS4 command, it does give me the option, but of course the LR adjustments were already incorporated in the TIFF file creation anyway.

If I create a new preset as Kirk suggested to edit in CS4, you get a warning message that there's already the inbuilt one that does that, but ignore that and do it anyway. If I do that, LR does give the option to incorporate the LR adjustments.

I can only assume that with the inbuilt edit in CS4 command it somehow sends the RAW file to CS4 (and as PixelMagic says, CS4 doesn't know how to handle the lens adjustments), whereas the user created presets actually generate a TIFF file, then edit in CS4 so the changes do get considered.


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Nov 04, 2010 18:28 |  #11

Well, that's interesting -- and of course an odd glitch that LR3 acts that way with CS4 but not with CS3.

Now, a question -- when you apply that preset, I'm guessing that LR does not automatically import the tiff? Or is that built into the preset? It would suck to have to manually re-import, since to me PS edit tiffs should be part of the library!


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Nov 04, 2010 21:27 |  #12

The TIFF is created and added to the library before it's opened in CS4, if you make changes in CS4 then save it, the changes are automatically imported back to LR and are visible there. That's pretty sweet. :)


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Nov 04, 2010 21:42 |  #13

Oh, cool! It's a real workaround -- glad that's settled!


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Nov 04, 2010 21:43 |  #14

Have you by chance brought this up in the LR users forum? Submitted a bug request? The developers actually listen to people and occasionally drop into the forum to discuss some things.


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Nov 04, 2010 21:52 |  #15

Haven't but probably should. I'm here much more than there. Not even sure if I"m a member... :)


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