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Dave Ziser Lighting System, is there a comparable but cheaper way?

 
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Nov 08, 2010 12:07 |  #31

When he is mobile he uses mostly speeds, unless it's a studio setting.


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Nov 08, 2010 12:08 |  #32

ya, most of his recent stuff has been with a Quadra. ;)




  
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Nov 08, 2010 12:10 |  #33
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TopHatMoments wrote in post #11247046 (external link)
When he is mobile he uses mostly speeds, unless it's a studio setting.

As i said you might wanna read up on him, youtube isnt the only source you know.

When he is mobile ? as is walking ? Riding a bike ? Climbing the empire state building ?

What defines a studio setting ?

When your at it, learn to spell Nikon. :lol:


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Nov 08, 2010 12:52 |  #34

Noink works fine for me, there great door stops.*
For someone who proclaims to be all knowledge, you ask a lot of silly questions.
Now I know you don't believe all you read. Beside when you can go to an event and talk to, why read?

You see what I mean, fight ya tooth and nail over there beloved gear, at the drop of text

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Still does little, to answer the OP's question.

Ya have fun now ya here! It's far to violently texted for me.
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Nov 08, 2010 13:03 |  #35
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For someone who try to come off all high and might and agnostic on brands and gear, the dig at Nikon makes you lose face pretty fast.

Your first claim made it sound like Joe mostly uses speedlights regardless of what he is shooting. There is not secret that Joe is a Nikon CLS preacher, still dosen't mean he uses them for every shoot on location.

As mumbles said Joe has been working quite a bit with the Elinchrom Quadra lately, that if you are to belive what he is writing and the video he has been doing.

TopHatMoments wrote in post #11246933 (external link)
I've been reading here for awhile and sometime I can't help but wonder.

I wouldn't use that, or my gear is far superior to your gear, heck if that's the case don't tell us show us.


Now i haven't seen a single image from you, so why don't you show everyone how you get by with your Mcgyver approach ?


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Nov 09, 2010 11:00 |  #36

Mr Joe (numbnuts) has a regular blog and I'm on his email list, the same with David Hobby's Strobist site and both are very interesting and informative.

Joe is a top shooter, and does workshops all the time, all over the world, working with his Nikon speedlights as well as Elinchrom Rangers and Quadra's. At first he was reluctant regarding the Quadras but I see that he's getting used to them.

He also uses a lot of grip gear sometimes, he's a lighting machine and I love him, he's a good read and a great teacher.

If you search about Annie L a lot, you'll find wider shots of some of her sets and to say she uses a Softlighter II is selling it short. That is the floating key for the portrait shots but she also uses large panels of diffusion with softlight shooting through for the overall of the set. Interesting enough in the video of her shooting the head of Profoto, the actual finished photo for the add that I saw had the key light coming from the opposite side of his face than what was happening in the video, at least that's what I remember.

I think if you find a light/system that you feel good about, you can really learn to use it well no matter what the source.

I've been ordering all kinds of books on photography from my cities library system, just to browse. I keep coming across many photograhers from the past who did really beautiful work, fashion and portraits, who used only one or two lights. Granted they were shooting black and white so they could use ambient light without worrying about the color temp. But looking at the photos of so many, I who came from shooting with truckloads of hot lights for shooting commercials for so many years have found myself trying to mostly focus on the key light and adjusting to make that work, sometimes I add a second light or 3 but mostly I find myself intrigued by the simplicity of a single source and a silver fill.

Now this is limiting in a commercial sense but using the Mola Beauty dishes has me really fascinated with the simplicity concept. Either way the most important thing is just to make the photograph wonderful so limitations are simply boundaries to push your visual senses I think.

For me I was just asking on his umbrella to see if it was different and I'll stick with my current Westcott as I've gotten quite used to it. I sold my second 580EXII hardly used, to put the money into the Molas and Octabank but if I do find myself doing more than single OCF with a speedlight then I'll buy something other than the expensive Canon units as I don't use their wireless system, I tried many times and just got frustrated, have considered a longer custom ETTL cord though for my one OCF.

Dave Ziser does a great job with weddings, I'm not into that but I study everything, his system works for him and I'm sure that if you do the same that you can make it work for you as well. Sometimes it's just that - having a system and knowing it extremely well - that leaves you free to be more creative with your images instead of trying to fuss with the lighting gear.


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Nov 18, 2010 00:03 |  #37

I have been out for a family emergency, and then got sick, got back online 2 days ago, so I am just now reading thru all the posts. I want to thank everyone for the suggestions, they gave me a lot to think about...and read about! Glad this subject brought so much discussion!!


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Nov 18, 2010 23:38 |  #38

MR do little wrote in post #11247066 (external link)
When your at it, learn to spell Nikon. :lol:

"While you're at it", learn proper grammar. :lol: Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!


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Nov 19, 2010 00:31 |  #39
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williejr wrote in post #11310551 (external link)
"While you're at it", learn proper grammar. :lol: Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

Yeah, bloody furriners.


cheers, juice (Canon shooter, Elinchrom lighter, but pretty much agnostic on brands.)

  
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williejr wrote in post #11310551 (external link)
"While you're at it", learn proper grammar. :lol: Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

Little late to the party sonny, but boy am i glad you could make it...


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Dec 12, 2010 09:37 |  #41

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What is the Westcott Model Number that is the same as the Zumbrella? Also, David Ziser has been talking about a much larger shoot through he's "beta testing". My guess is that the non-branded version of that already exists through Westcott, too.

Bump.. My zumbrella was on a light stand that the wind took this weekend.
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Which model is the Westcott alternative?


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Dec 12, 2010 11:31 |  #42

MR do little wrote in post #11228538 (external link)
Quantum is not a company i would invest money is, just a glance on their website screams stay away. Not to mention the various bugs they have had with their ttl compatibility. Which is the only thing that speaks in it's favour for those who dont want manual flash.

I've had Quantum Radio Slaves for over 25 years and other than one time when I dropped one of the tramsmitters on a concrete floor they have never failed me. I have three of their receivers, three transmitters and their Turbo battery, all excellent products. In addition to the concrete episode with a transmitter I also dropped the battery and cracked the circuit board. Their repair service on both was simply outstanding. Another thing I like is the fact that their transmitters are about 1/4th the size of Pocket Wizards.

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