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Nov 06, 2010 07:05 |  #1

As the title says i am brand new to both this forum and photography as a whole.

I don't currently own a DSLR, but i am now in the market for one.
To say that i don't anything about what to look for would be an understatement.
I have messed with some simple point-and-shoot cameras but never with anything that's actually decent.
Frankly, I don't even know where to start. I'm very interested in photography and would love to make it a hobby.
I don't really know what a good starting out camera would be, so that would be very helpful to get some advice on.
Finding a camera is my first step. I don't particularly want to give an arm and a leg for my first camera though... so if anyone can suggest a good starting point, that'd be great.
And really just anything. Anything anybody can help me out with would be greatly appreciated.




  
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Nov 06, 2010 11:03 |  #2

I would think the first thing to do is figure out how much you want to spend on a camera body and then a lens also to use with it. I am assuming that you are looking for a DSLR. If not, and since you are on a Canon site, maybe a G-10, 11 or 12 camera might initially meet your needs and desire.


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Nov 06, 2010 18:25 |  #3

I think I want a dslr. And as far as how much I wanna spend, I'd like to stay under 1k.




  
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Nov 07, 2010 01:37 |  #4

Any suggestions?




  
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Nov 07, 2010 02:20 as a reply to  @ Buff N Stuff's post |  #5

There are very good "starter" books that could help you along. I like Scott Kelby's "digital photography" series (Vol 1&2). They really help newbies (no offense meant, I was there too).
As to equipment, if you want a DSLR, I would stick to the 2 major brands, Canon or Nikon. Both will deliver a lot more than you can extract from them at this stage. The main difference between them is the ergonomics (some favor Canon, others the other way around), and the colour bias, but, overall, the quality is very good with both brands.
Then you need to make certain decisions, based on your preferences as a consumer. Are you going to buy new or used? Do you intend to shoot video? (beware, DSLR's don't make video shooting easy, whatever the advertising blurb says). Do you prefer to spend slow and upgrade later once you know where your photography is going, or do you prefer to have "serious stuff" in your hands to start with?
Also keep in mind that camera bodies have a very short commercial life (12-18 months), so your resale value will suck, if that is what you are looking for when you upgrade. Lenses on the other hand hold their value much better, especially if they are high end (Canon L) lenses.
Now, if after all this you are still interested in a simple recommendation, the Canon T1i and T2i are terrific starter bodies. The 18-55IS is a nice all-purpose lens. In the hands of an able photographer, this combination delivers pictures that can get applause on any photography forum. Just don't expect to match Annie Leibowitz when you shoot your friend's wedding in a dimly lit church. Not just yet...
And, most of all, don't let anything stand in the way of your HAVING FUN!!!




  
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Nov 07, 2010 04:31 |  #6

Appreciate the help, dude. I really had no idea where to even start. Hah.

Thanks again.




  
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Nov 07, 2010 09:21 |  #7

Hi! My name is Katy and I am a wanna be photographer! I really hope to get a Canon T2i soon (hubby promised by the end of the year)! I have always had a love photography and hope to learn as much as i can before I even actually get a camera. My husband has done a ton of research on cameras and lenses so i thought I better get up to speed with him. So, with that said can philber give me some basics I need to know and look for when beginning the great camera search and purchase???

Thanks,
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Nov 07, 2010 09:29 |  #8

KatyLee wrote in post #11240140 (external link)
Hi! My name is Katy and I am a wanna be photographer! I really hope to get a Canon T2i soon (hubby promised by the end of the year)! I have always had a love photography and hope to learn as much as i can before I even actually get a camera. My husband has done a ton of research on cameras and lenses so i thought I better get up to speed with him. So, with that said can philber give me some basics I need to know and look for when beginning the great camera search and purchase???

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I'm a noob for over a year now and started w/ a T1i then progress my lens as shows in my sig. I'm quite there yet like most of the POTN'r here but getting there lil by lil. I've learn just to practice3x makes you knowledgeable in how you shoot. I learn so much from various threads here and hope it does to you as well. Welcome to POTN.


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Nov 07, 2010 09:34 |  #9

thanks for the reply! I hope to absorb like a 'lil sponge and one day own a thriving photography business! :-)




  
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Nov 07, 2010 09:56 |  #10

As of Nov 4 Canon rebates are in force, some special offers are popping up here and there, so now is a good time to buy.

To KatyLee, if your husband has already settled on a T2i, you don't have a camera search to worry about. Chances are, if he buys now, he can get a good deal on the body and the two EFs lenses that most often come with it as a kit, the 18-55 and 55-250. These will more that cover all you need for beginning photography,

As to learning, like an earlier comment said, buy a book on the subject. Learn what a good photo is and try to learn how to see through the lens. 90 percent of all problems in beginner photography is wasting space in the image because beginners put their subject dead center, rather than using the frame to make a composition.

Examples below. The initial shot was centered on the girl but had a lot of excess background, plus the focus was off. The second shot was vertical and tighter, but also cropped ruthlessly for the final version.


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Nov 07, 2010 09:57 |  #11

The beginning is the toughest part, because that's when you need to decide....do I just get the good stuff now, or buy what I can afford and upgrade later?

What is your budget?

What will you be shooting the most?

Do you 'really' need video capabilities from your camera? A lot of people say they want it, and then never use it. Don't pay for something you won't use, invest that money elsewhere....like a flash.

Not all cameras are created equal. There are some entry level cameras that will meet the needs of most people. This would be the Canon Rebel Series. All of these camera bodies are considered entry level.

Then, you have the XXD bodies. Now, some say these aren't true pro bodies but I know plenty of true pros that use them. This group would be the 20D, 30D, 40D, 50D, and 60D. Oh yeah...and the 10D.

Next, you have the 5D bodies. These bodies have features that the xxD bodies don't have and quite a few people consider these to be pro bodies. They are common amongst pros because of the body size, not too small, not to big.

Finally, the no argument pro body 1D series. There are two types of 1D bodies, the 1D and 1Ds. These bodies are larger than the other bodies. The 1D is a 1.3x crop sensor. It is not a true full frame sensor but it does work with all Canon EF lenses. The 1Ds bodies are a full frame sensors and may or may not work with certain lenses. The 1D and 1Ds bodies are by far the most expensive. They offer features that the other bodies don't offer, like more focus points, dual memory cards, superb weather sealing...to name a few. But, these bodies aren't for everyone. They are heavy and their features aren't needed by the majority. I bought a 1D Mark ii primarily for two features, faster frames per second and the ability to capture 7 frames in AEB. If that last sentence is foreign to you, you probably don't need to bother with these bodies....for now.

And then....there is the 7D. I'm not sure where to really put this one. I would say it is superior to the xxD bodies, it has some features that are superior to the 5D bodies but I would not say that it is superior to the 5D bodies. I guess if you look at the price, it is somewhere between the xxD and 5D bodies. I have never shot with this body so I will let someone else chime in about where it ranks.

As a beginner, I would suggest that you start with one of the higher end Rebel bodies. Invest your money into the glass, or lenses. The images you can get from a Rebel body with Cannon L series glass are very, very good. As your needs begin to exceed the capability of your camera, you can upgrade to a better one later and already have the L glass for it.

There's my two cents...


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Nov 07, 2010 16:53 as a reply to  @ TGrundvig's post |  #12

Thank you so much for the info! I loved reading about all the different models! When it comes to rebates are you talking about rebates threw canon or a store? is there a specific place I should look?

I was trying to figure out if I would truly need video and honestly think I would because I do not have a video camera but I have a 6 month old baby boy that I would love to shoot video of.

I would love to have a flash and a zoom lenses though...

ugh so many options!

I guess I need a book to start reading....

Anyways, Thank again for all the info!!!! Oh and the sample pictures! I just cant wait to get my hands on a camera to capture my lil guys life and hopefully make something of myself with it!

Katy




  
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Nov 07, 2010 17:31 |  #13

Also thanks to everybody for all the information. I'm hopefully gonna be buying my first camera here in the next few days.

I'm pumped!




  
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Nov 07, 2010 17:32 |  #14

Click on this link.

http://shop.usa.canon.​com …55?WT.mc_id=EM1​011EO01001 (external link)

Canon T2i with one lens is $849.00

It doesn't matter whether you want video or not. If you buy one of the new DSLRs, video is included. I didn't like it or think I wanted it, but now I'm changing my mind. See example here:

http://www.youtube.com …dvaitin#p/u/3/U​c96EkWGegA (external link)


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Nov 08, 2010 08:47 as a reply to  @ advaitin's post |  #15

ok, so whats the difference between the 50D and the 60D? All the specs are pretty much foreign to me.

Katy




  
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