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Nov 07, 2010 09:32 |  #1

My colors look so blah! What am I doing wrong? I just bought this thing new.

I am using a MacBook Pro current gen
Mac OS/X 106.4
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Adobe Photoshop CS4

Saturation seem off. Skin tones look faded. Doing a nozzle clean as I suspect the cyan is not coming out enough.

Thoughts anyone? What color profile/management should I be using?

Thank you.


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Nov 07, 2010 09:53 |  #2

What driver? Update to Printer Driver v6.62 (external link)
What color settings? Calibrated screen?

http://www.getcolorman​aged.com …-epson-and-photoshop-cs4/ (external link)
http://www.getcolorman​aged.com/color-management/part2/ (external link)

http://www.getcolorman​aged.com/color-management/testprint/ (external link) (second part)


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Nov 07, 2010 10:21 |  #3

Driver v6.62 yes

Was using Adobe RGB. Will look into these URLS's


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Nov 07, 2010 10:49 |  #4

Use the proper profile for the paper you are using:

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Nov 07, 2010 17:59 |  #5

Thanks René,

I checked it out. I am still not too impressed with the results while doing all you suggest. I find the reds to be very subdued on glossy paper (Epson). I will re-read those URLs, you posted.


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Nov 07, 2010 19:47 |  #6

René,
I went on the MacForums and found some interesting intel about selecting the match print. I noticed the preview changing more to match my original. I will print off some photos (small ones) to see the results and check back here.


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Nov 08, 2010 05:35 |  #7

Yeah. "Match print colors" gives you a kinda softproof.

In the "color problems" link from my sig, there are a few links about softproofing.


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Nov 08, 2010 09:21 |  #8

René Damkot wrote in post #11245237 (external link)
Yeah. "Match print colors" gives you a kinda softproof.

In the "color problems" link from my sig, there are a few links about softproofing.

René,

Great work and advice. Thank you! I'll keep working on this until I get it right.


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Nov 14, 2010 10:15 |  #9

OK, so I resolved most of my printing issues (OE - Operator Error). I still find that my output to glossy 8.5x11 while looking better, still seems a bit drab compared to my old HP Photosmart outputs. The quality is great but it lacks the snap and brightness/contrast. I have been mindful of the paper profiles I'm using and experimented with some degree of success but not fully to my liking. Are there other profiles to get?

The apps I am running are Aperture 3.1 and PSCS4 on my MacBook Pro 10.6.5 (current gen with 8gb RAM) so I don't think it's a horsepower issue.


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Nov 14, 2010 11:10 |  #10

SilversurferC6 wrote in post #11281697 (external link)
...The apps I am running are Aperture 3.1 and PSCS4 on my MacBook Pro 10.6.5 (current gen with 8gb RAM) so I don't think it's a horsepower issue.

Is the MBP hardware calibrated? No external monitor?


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Nov 14, 2010 11:21 as a reply to  @ ChasP505's post |  #11

SilversurferC6,

Epson used to offer and I assume still do, an excellent document on their web site called "Managing Colour". It has been written using the R2880 as the example and describes exactly how the print workflow should be set up, from post processing software to printer driver. It is a "Master Class" in Epson printing.


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Nov 14, 2010 14:02 |  #12

SilversurferC6 wrote in post #11281697 (external link)
OK, so I resolved most of my printing issues (OE - Operator Error). I still find that my output to glossy 8.5x11 while looking better, still seems a bit drab compared to my old HP Photosmart outputs. The quality is great but it lacks the snap and brightness/contrast. I have been mindful of the paper profiles I'm using and experimented with some degree of success but not fully to my liking. Are there other profiles to get?

The apps I am running are Aperture 3.1 and PSCS4 on my MacBook Pro 10.6.5 (current gen with 8gb RAM) so I don't think it's a horsepower issue.

Which icc profiles are you using? There are the standard icc profiles that are loaded with the driver, and "premium" icc profiles on Epson's support site. (external link)


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Nov 14, 2010 15:14 |  #13

Hen3Ry & Lowner,

Thanks for the great intel. This testing is starting to cost me a few dineros in ink and paper but heck, learning is fun.


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Nov 14, 2010 18:25 |  #14

ChasP505 wrote in post #11281912 (external link)
Is the MBP hardware calibrated? No external monitor?

Chas,
No it is not. Perhaps I should consider this or get an external monitor. I am actually considering adding an iMac to the herd. Any recommendations for calibration?


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Nov 14, 2010 18:52 as a reply to  @ SilversurferC6's post |  #15

Just last week I finally dialed in my Epson R1800 color to match my screen. I used my Eye-One Display 2 and set up the Adobe CS3 and set profiles for my paper in the printers settings. Epson does have a nice webpage on color management. I used this site to dial mine in: http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps10_prin​t/ps10_print_1.htm (external link)


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